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We haven't discussed these in a while. Is "string bass" a retronym? Just occurred to me the other day...
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It appears to be, as separating the strings from the woodwinds. Here's a list I found: acoustic guitar AM radio analog watch bar soap bias-ply tire birth mother broadcast TV Classic Coke classical music clay pot cloth diapers conventional oven conventional weapons day game day shift day job dirt road full-service gas station free gift free-range chickens hardcover book health food horse cavalry (thanks to Philip M. Cohen) horse-drawn carriage horse polo land line live drama live TV mainframe computer manual transmission manual typewriter mechanical calculator natural blonde natural childbirth natural flavor natural language natural turf offline publication oil lamp Old Testament one-speed bicycle open cockpit organic food paper notebook (thanks to James Collins) plaintext pocket watch print journalists propeller airplane push mower real cream reel-to-reel tape recorder regular coffee rotary phone sea salt silent movie single-wide trailer small arms snail mail snow skiing standard time steam locomotive straight razor tap water two-parent family whole milk wood-burning fireplace wooden ship World War I
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Cool list, Dr Bill! I was thinking more along the lines of "string bass" vs. "electric bass" (like your "acoustic guitar" example).
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I might argue with a few of those:
Classical music - even if you think modern non-classical is crap there was plenty of music before that which we laughingly refer to as 'serious music'
Tap water - Better might be 'well water' but even that's a bit iffy.
Rotary phone - just out of curiousity, what did we call the first phone with a mechanism for self selecting the desired number (rather than asking Myrt to connect us to City Hall)?
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>curiousity
I've always been curious about this "misspell"..
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Pure mislexia.
So tsuw me.
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Dear Faldage: Wasn't the dial phone the first device to replace operator? And isn't it now silly to talk about "dial-up" internet connection. Are there any dial phones still in use?
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My point with the question about dial phones is that the term wouldn't be a retronym if it were applied to phones that had dials added as an innovation, replacing the old 'pick up the ear thingy and jiggle the hook to get the operators attention' phones. (which were probably not known as putetajthtgtoa phones). Perhaps, since we probably stopped using the term dial phone when they became the norm (if we ever used it in that sense) and went back to it with the advent of touch-tone phones, it's a retro-retronym.
I believe pulse is still an option in your modem connection software.
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>>curiousity >mislexia.. litigation
no, I was being serial -- some spellcheckers actually accept this. is this attempted standardization? extended mislexia?? archaism?!
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Nuh-uh. This is something different, using the adjective to refer to the new instance. If what we call 'web sites' were just referred to as 'sites' and we called physical locations, say, 'geographical sites', *that would be the retronym.
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But but (oh boy, more fray!)--why does physicality have anything to do with it? Why were web sites called sites in the first place? Because they are places you go to.
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Well, a store may have a web site as well as a physical site and there could be a need to define which of the two you are visiting.
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They're not places in the physical sense. You don't actually transport your body to the hard drive of some server somewhere. Do we need a retronym for physical places?
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Do we need a retronym for physical places?
How about brick-and-mortar?
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Why would that be a retronym?
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Are there any dial phones still in use?
I still use one just to save the 36$ a year "tone" charge, and if you are skilled enough you can still make a phone call by making the correct sequence of clicks (after the "dial tone").
Advertizers still used the word "dial" in print and voice tell us to "dial 1-800......." and always have from what I can remember.
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formerly known as etaoin...
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"Dial" the verb is, I believe, a backformation from "dial" the noun. You had a dial on your phone and used it to input the number you wanted to connect to. So, "ring" or "dial" became the action. "Ring", obviously I think, came from the phone's bell.
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thanks, Cap. are dials alwaya round? also makes me think of sundial...
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There's linear dials on radios.
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Dial < Latin dialis 'daily' < dies 'day'. In the Middle Ages denoted a sun-dial or clockface.
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I love soi-disant. It rolls off the tongue much more trippingly than "self-appointed" and the literal translation from the French is much more to the point and scathing. I used it in a meeting at work some time ago, and found everyone looking at me with blank stares. I said "sorry, I meant self-appointed" and moved on. After the meeting one of the (supposedly all university-educated) others at the meeting came up to me and asked me how "that Maori word" was spelled ... 
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> "that Maori word"
LOL! Akaroa Maori, naturellement.
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Ayah! And, of course, the two parts of the word both begin with letters not in the Maori alphabet, but given the initial error, missing that one was a tad understandable, I guess. These things happen and at the time I think: I must post this one; but somehow I forget and life moves on. Our project finished on Wednesday, after two years and four months. It's a success; we've had official congratulations from everyone from the CEO on down. Unfortunately, the thanks are just a leedle premature given that the past three months have been "extra time" - using contingency. We also need about another month to tidy up the loose ends. I explained away this need to the business sponsor, quite seriously, as being "injury time", making up for days lost to sickness. Believe it or not, he trotted off quite happily with that one. Let's hope he never actually thinks about what I said ... 
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>>>that Maori wordDass me, Madame Maori 
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