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#125668 03/21/2004 11:48 PM
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I know this isn't the word I'm looking for. I just needed something to grab y'all's attention and I forgot how to spell sex.

The situation is that you have been exposed to, say, a word that you have never seen before and all of a sudden it's showing up everywhere. Is there a word that means that sort of thing?


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serandipity?


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blogflog?


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logosensitized?

No, really, I don't know what the word you're seeking is, Faldage. But it's the sort of logosensitization I go through regularly.


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logosurfeit?


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hearsute?



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Synchronicity. Dunno if there's a word just for when the event is a word.


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recognition? (hitherto ~)


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serendubiquity?


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Coincidence.


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Re: "a word that you have never seen before and all of a sudden it's showing up everywhere. Is there a word that means that sort of thing?

You're not thinking of "Grapho" are you?

Just kiddin'. My wings are clipped.

Actually, I think the word you are looking for is "ubiquitous".

This from the American Heritage Dictionary:

Being or seeming to be everywhere at the same time; omnipresent: “plodded through the shadows fruitlessly like an ubiquitous spook”[or a gnat] (Joseph Heller).





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I don't think anybody's quite got it yet. Serendipity implies some sort of happy coincidence that's lacking in what I want. The phenomenon isn't limited to words; if I were driving a white car for five years and then bought a red car suddenly I see more than my share of red cars, so I'm going to dismiss all the logo- words. Recognition is getting there, but I don't think it's quite specific enough. It's probably a psych term of some sort.


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Don't know of any word for it, Faldo, but I sure do know what you mean!


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if I were driving a white car for five years and then bought a red car suddenly I see more than my share of red cars

Maybe it's just "projection", Faldage.

To see what's always been there
Often takes more than a stare
Sometimes it's a bump
Or a kick in the rump
That makes us become aware.




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Sometimes it's a bump Or a kick in the rump

The road to the top is paved with banana peels.

Let this be a lesson to all
However your station so tall
You may slip in the slop
On your way to the top
Then you're back in the slop with us all.





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I have to admit that the word I usually use in this case is "annoying." The word get overused and it gets on your nerves. Same thing with cars and clothing and anything that becomes a fad.


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re:The phenomenon isn't limited to words; if I were driving a white car for five years and then bought a red car suddenly I see more than my share of red cars,

this is almost a paradigm.
there was an article about the 'discovery' of the ozone hole over south pole.. for years scientist had been taking reading of ozone/atmosphere, and often, the data over the south pole 'fell of the scale' they just ignored it, and presumed it was some sort of problem about the angle the information had been measured at, or relections from polar ice causing problems, etc.. but finally one day, on young scientist deside to find out why the data from the area of the south pole was some times 'irregular' what he discovered was the data was correct! there was an ozone 'hole' over the south pole. it wasn't new data, just a new look at old stuff, and seeing something new. a paradigm shift. (is shift reduntent there? no matter, i am leaving it)

(until we had a thread on the term 'sea change', i never saw it.. since then, i have re-read some books, and found the expression in use. obviously, i had missed it first time round!)
paradigm might not be the word you are looking for.. but am i getting closer to the general idea?


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I have to admit that the word I usually use in this case is "annoying." The word get overused and it gets on your nerves. Same thing with cars and clothing and anything that becomes a fad.

bel, no, that's not it. Can you remember ever learning the meaning of a word/concept and then suddenly seeing it everywhere, maybe because you'd never noticed it before (until you learned it)?


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suddenly seeing it everywhere, maybe because you'd never noticed it before (until you learned it)? I can't be sure, but I don't think there's a psychological term for this phenomenon. Heightened awareness is all I can think of.




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That's close to what I would call it, Jackie - 'to gain a new awareness'.


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paradigm might not be the word you are looking for.. but am i getting closer to the general idea?

Yes, you're on to it there, de Troy.

We are quite literally programmed to see what we expect to see.

Our subconcious is programmed with "schemata" which instantly fill in the blanks when we receive partial information*.

It is an evolutionary survival advantage, but it can lead to a lot of unfairness when we make "snap judgments" about people based on the color of their skin, the way they are dressed, whatever.

Our "schemata" are best illustrated by "optical illusions" such as the one where you are presented with several lines of a cube and you "see" the missing lines. Your mind literally fills in the blanks.

A good example is this "subjective word illusion":

http://www.sandlotscience.com/Contrast/Contrast_frm.htm Then click on #11 in the left margin "Subjective Word".

When we see something for the first time which has always been there, it is because, as you say, there has been a pardigm shift. Something occurred which disrupted our unconscious program.

In effect, the "schemata" has shifted and a new "schemata" has begun to emerge.

The mind also does something which can be quite insidious. It screens out information, beneath the level of consciousness, which does not square with the "schemata".

That means the information which is filtered out by the unconscious is literally invisible to us.

Someone with a different "schemata" which is sensitive to that information will see it, but we won't.

This explains why a black street kid seeing a white cop beat up on a black will literally see something quite different than a white tourist witnessing the same event will see.

Their "schemata" are different. Consequently, what they actually see is different.

They both actually believe that what they are seeing is "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" but, the truth is, nothing could be further from the truth.

*"Schemata are schemes which allow us to integrate knowledge in ways by linking traits and facts together so that the 'lumpiness' of reality is accurately represented in our minds. Remember, if it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, and has feathers like a duck, it is probably a duck." .... to which I am impelled to append the obvious. If you have not spent any time by a lake, a river or a marsh, you might mistake a loon for a duck [until you hear him cry].

Personally, I love to hear a loon cry, but that is another story.

"Quacks", on the other hand, are called "quacks" for good reason.




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Okay, I'll bite: an inflammation of [the] epiphanies?


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Okay, I'll bite: an inflammation of [the] epiphanies?

I never bite an Old Hand who feeds me with good lines, inselpeter.

A gnat has to protect his sources.




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an inflammation of [the] epiphanies?

A picture of "epiphanitis" is worth a thousand words.

http://www.optillusions.com/dp/1-3.htm






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Faldage

This sounds a bit (but not entirely) like a idea called the 'Hundredth Monkey phenomenon'. Don't know if you remember it, but I think a book was written about it too.

Unfortunately, as far as I am aware, the actual hundredth monkey case that is cited was false. Nevertheless, the phrase is still with us.

It's the closest thing I can think of to your case.

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I'm vaguely familiar with the Hundredth Monkey thing. Something about some monkeys learning a new thing, like opening nuts with a rock, and slowly they would teach it to other monkeys, but when the hundredth monkey learned it suddenly they all knew it?


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The original woo-woo idea suggested that once 100 knew it, the knowledge, like telepathy, island-hopped and all, with monkeys picking up the practice that had never seen another do it. This extreme version turned out to be false, but it's basically the idea of a critical mass being reached. I think the Tipping Point is a similar idea being touted in the bestseller lists.

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reification

One of my favorite words. A word composed of nothing but affixes.


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Unfortunately, as far as I am aware, the actual hundredth monkey case that is cited was false. Nevertheless, the phrase is still with us.

The 100th Monkey case may be an urban myth, shanks, but there is other evidence of this type of 'spontaneous learning' phenomenon, I believe.

I read of this some time ago in connection with a study of a particular species of bird in England which learned how to pry the caps off of milk bottles.* The knack spread rapidly throughout the entire population of this species.

There are other studies of this kind of 'spontaneous learning' phenomenon as well, I believe.

I will go hunting for them.

Cheers.

*Obviously, this was in the days when milkmen in horse-drawn milk trucks delivered bottled milk to doorsteps in every residential neighbourhood. That dates the research back at least 50 years, I fathom.



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Grapho

The phenomenon was one in which tits (the birds, I mean), pecked through the foil caps on milk-bottles placed out side doors in the morning. Later studies showed that this was not a cultural learning/critical mass phenomenon, but one in which tits, both attracted to shiny things and natural peckers of things, mostly learned this independently, or at best, from watching the first in the neighbourhood to do so.

Another urban myth, I'm afraid, though I haven't looked it up so am not in a position to quote sources that will back up my position.

Any others here know about this?

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Not sure of that. Must look up the etymology.

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Must look up the etymology

Don't bother. Just my little joke. The re- is from the Latin res, thing.


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still, making something out of nothing (broadly speaking)


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A-ha. And I didn't get the joke. (Shooting self in head emoticon)


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tits, both attracted to shiny things and natural peckers of things, mostly learned this independently

What you say makes sense, shanks.

Re: the sunshine "brutally against the apotheosis of natural phenomena" warrior

If you understand the term "natural phenomena" to mean something for which there is no scientific explanation, than I am brutally opposed to that hypothesis myself.

I have always understood "natural phenomena" to be phenomena in respect of which no scientific explanation has yet been found, or, if found, phenomena not generally comprehended by the public on a scientific basis (like "Northern Lights" or "Magnetic Hill", both of which instill wonder in all but the most jaded scientific types).

Because I view "natural phenomena" in this way, I do not regard the term as antithetical to my faith in science.

Instead, I find myself involuntarily, and intensely curious about the scientific mystery underpinning the "natural phenomena".

That mystery can have more allure than the "natural phenomenon" itself, experienced and enjoyed for itself alone.

Unfortunately, I do not have the skills or the opportunity to pursue that curiosity, at least directly. Few of us do.

For many of us, a mysterious bird in the bush is worth two or more in the hand.

Cheers.


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Re: ification Snort! And here I thought you were asleep all this time...


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Obviously, this was in the days when milkmen in horse-drawn milk trucks delivered bottled milk to doorsteps in every residential neighbourhood. That dates the research back at least 50 years, I fathom.


Has there been a major social upheaval while I've been away? As far as I know milk in the UK is still delivered door-to-door using electric carts.

See the vehicle on the left on this page:
http://www.milkbottlenews.org.uk/photos/dairyvehicles.html

Some interesting examples of notes to the milkman:
http://www.milkbottlenews.org.uk/features/notes/index.html

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Re: bottled milk to doorsteps in every residential neighbourhood. That dates the research back at least 50 years, I fathom.

I thought door to door delivery of bottled milk disappeared everywhere, driven by the same economic pressures.

Guess you don't have "Milk Stores" in England, huh?

Milk stores replaced door to door delivery in every neighborhood I know of.

Glass milk bottles disappeared at the same time, replaced by cardboard cartons and plastic jugs.

Lugging jugs of "Jug Milk" from the corner store to the front door is the delivery system in every place where I have lived or visited, and it has been for decades.

They're even trying to replace door to door delivery of mail in new subdivisions with outdoor curbside postal boxes serving the entire subdivision.

Of course, the delivery man doesn't get his Christmas bonus at the door anymore.



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I can’t picture a ‘jug of jug milk’. Isn’t it hard to carry without spilling, or is this not really a jug? Traditionally we give a ‘Christmas box’ (ie: money) to regular deliverymen, but these days they seem to change once a month, so we reserve our generosity for the dustmen, who are more consistent and also excellent but can do you a real disservice if you upset them!

In the UK we do still have doorstep delivery of milk, normally in cartons or screw top plastic containers but I suspect still in bottles in some areas. It is a very useful service for the elderly and housebound as the milkman often delivers other groceries, particularly in rural areas, and is a good regular contact. I don’t think we have ‘milk stores’ as such, but most people buy milk from the supermarkets where it is cheaper (often sold as a loss-leader) than from the milkman.

We would prefer to use the milkman as it would be a shame to see them finally disappear, they have been part of the scene for so long a time, but the service is only ideal for a household that needs the same amount of milk each day and where there is always someone home to take it in.



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I can’t picture a ‘jug of jug milk’. Isn’t it hard to carry without spilling, or is this not really a jug?

A picture is worth a thousand words, dxb.

Here's a Milk Jug recycled as a bird feeder.

http://users.aristotle.net/~shicks/birds/Feeder.html

Some larger jugs don't have a handle inset into the jug which takes away from capacity. Instead they have a plastic handle hanging from the neck of the Jug.

"Milk Stores" are really just convenience stores that got started selling milk at discount prices, probably as a loss leader.

I have heard that there is a company in Michigan that recycles milk jugs into all-weather patio furniture. It won't wear, chip or fade, and you can leave it outside all year long.


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