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#124601 03/08/04 01:40 AM
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But attempting carnal knowledge of a mule would be back to the Texan having sex with the grizzly.

Well, I won't offer any censure, wwh, 'cause I'm not in a state of grace.



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But attempting carnal knowledge of a mule would be back to the Texan having sex with the grizzly.

P.S. A mule is likely to take it in the end (in the end) but he doesn't have to like taking it.





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I agree with belmarduk's explanation as well. This headline from the Jakarta Post shows the way I've always heared it used. A word of explanation: Indonesia is currently undergoing an epidemic of what may be a new strain of dengue fever .http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20040303.C04

The etymology of dengue from: http://www.bartleby.com/61/9/D0130900.html

American Spanish, alteration (influenced by dengue, affectation) of Swahili -dinga.

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Re: I agree with BelM myself: "The expression means...If you want to get somebody to do something, try to use a lure that will make them WANT to do it. Coax them with kindness."

There is a 3rd way, perhaps.

Drop the carrot and the stick, and treat the mule as an equal.

Mules can kick the habit, if the habit doesn't make a mule of himself.

How revolutionary is that?



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Dear Bingley: The article didn't explain why the whole population has to get involved immediately. The mosquito
that transmits the disease can breed in quite small quantities of water. Here's statement from Internet:
Research done in Trinidad by D.A Focks and D.D Chadee and published in the American Journal of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene A. 56. (1997) 159, has identified outdoor drums, water storage tanks, buckets, laundry tubs, discarded tires drink bottles and cans as the most common breeding areas for the Aides Egypti mosquito. Outdoor drums, tubs, buckets and small containers were found to account for over 90% of all Aedes aegypti pupae. It is reasonable to assume that these research results can be applied to the Tobago situation based on similarities in climate and culture.



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Outdoor drums, tubs, buckets and small containers were found to account for over 90% of all Aedes aegypti pupae.

We have the same problem with West Nile Virus (WNV) around the Great Lakes, wwh, borne by some exotic strain of mosquito.

Larvicides are used in the early Spring before the larvae hatch.

Crows are the 'canaries in the mines' of WNS.

When the crows start dropping, the larvacide is never far behind.


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Dear grapho: things are bad enough here in US about old tire breeding mosquitoes. But in Indonesia, the people can't as easily protect small water storage items.And I'll
bet millions of plastic containers have been scatterd, since
recycling not readily accomplished. And even in their droubt
years they must have millions of puddles. Joke on me, in
medical school the etymology given for "dengue" was Spanish
something like "dangeroso" = "dangerous" allegedly based
on gait of victims looking like a bully looking for a fight.
That never made sense to me. A really sick man can't look much like a bully.


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A really sick man can't look much like a bully.

Sounds like the med students didn't know a dang thing about dengue.


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I got sent to the Pacific with a medical lab, and had to
learn a lot about tropical medicine in a hurry. You can't
imagine what a headache it is to get those people to pay
attention to the simple things that would keep them from
being half sick all the time from parasitic diseases. One of the Filipino doctors I knew thought it a big joke that
to get Rockefeller money for educating their kids, they'd build beautiful cement latrines. But they wouldn't use them!


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If nature were left to itself, the site of Jakarta would basically be a river delta in swampland. And of course nature keeps trying to make a comeback, so yes pools of standing water are very hard to eradicate here. It doesn't help that the city has a lot of half-finished buildings whose owners went bankrupt or at least lost their appetite for building in 1998.

Also the traditional Indonesian bathroom consists of a tank of water you scoop over yourself to bathe. It'a great way to have a bath but does have its disadvantages in the current situation.

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