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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 Re: orientatinizing ourselves... #123759 02/27/2004 6:35 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont way back on Tuesday from our esteemed jheem: Orient is from the present participle oriens 'rising' from the deponent verb orior, the past particple of which is ortus. So, the verb should be ort and the noun should be ortion. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: orientatinizing ourselves... #123760 02/27/2004 6:38 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 According to the COED the earliest noun citation antedates the first verb citing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: orientatinizing ourselves... #123761 02/27/2004 6:39 PM Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 maahey addict maahey addict Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 Yes, but what I am trying to say is, that etymology works for the noun. Why should the east figure in a word that means align/guide eta, thanks! EDIT: Just caught orientatinizing; IMO, a close contender! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: orientatinizing ourselves... #123762 02/27/2004 6:42 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Its earliest definition is 'to arrange so as to face east' or summat like that. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: orientatinizing ourselves... #123763 02/27/2004 6:44 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California jheem veteran jheem veteran Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California It makes sense that orient would come into English as a noun, and then later be turned into a verb (first with zero-suffixation and then with the anomolous -ate ending). This reminds me of a whole slew (not slough) of French verbs that were borrowed into German that end with -ieren from Fr -ir and German -en: double infinitival endings. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: orientatinizing ourselves... #123764 02/27/2004 6:45 PM Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 maahey addict maahey addict Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 Aah! Thanks Faldage! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: you would have thought #123765 02/27/2004 7:38 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass Capf', my (knee-jerk) reaction was due to "If latin is already 'efflucted'", (which rather differs from "If Latin has efflucted in time"), not to your previous; if you follow. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: you would have thought #123766 02/27/2004 8:26 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Capfka Pooh-Bah Capfka Pooh-Bah Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok A likely story ... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: needing to ort oneself #123767 02/28/2004 6:35 PM Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 619 Carpal Tunnel Country grapho addict grapho addict Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 619 Carpal Tunnel Country a living language violating a dead one Latin isn't dead. It's just buried in modern english. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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