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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread doubting thomas #123701 02/23/2004 4:02 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Date: Wed Oct 2 00:01:06 EDT 2002 Subject: A.Word.A.Day--doubting Thomas doubting Thomas (DOU-ting TOM-uhs) noun A person who is habitually doubtful or someone who refuses to believe something until given proof. [After Saint Thomas, apostle, who doubted Jesus Christ's resurrection according to the Bible.] P.S. I tried to find out the basis in the Bible for this tradition, but was unable to do do. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123702 02/23/2004 4:53 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California jheem veteran jheem veteran Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California Speaking of St Thomas, you meet a lot of South Indians with his name. Seems that India was evangelized by the Doubting Thomas himself. I believe Christianity came to India in something like the 5th century. The other common given name I've come across is Winston. (Most of the Indian Christians I've met seem to be from Kerela where they speak Malayalam, not to be confused with Kannada in Karnataka, Telegu in Andhra Pradesh, or Tamil in Tamilnadu.) All four are Dravidian languages (i.e., not genetically related to Sanskrit and Avesta). Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123703 02/23/2004 6:03 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont not to be confused with Kannada in Karnataka of course not... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123704 02/23/2004 11:58 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York According the Elaine Pagels and other scholars, Thomas's is one of the gospels the Council of Nicæa in the early 4th century thought best not to include in the Bible. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123705 02/24/2004 12:21 AM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California jheem veteran jheem veteran Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California Probably because it shows evidence of being Gnostic, a well-known heresy at the time. (ObLang ref: It exists in a Coptic version. Coptic is important for the reconstruction of the vowel sounds in Egyptian, because hieroglyphs left out the vowel sounds, but the Greek-derived alphabet of the Copts did not.) Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123706 02/25/2004 5:40 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta John 20:24-28 24Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it." 26A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." 28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!" http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=John+20&NIV_version=yes&language=english&x=12&y=3 Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123707 02/25/2004 5:44 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta The Gospel of Thomas: http://www.misericordia.edu/users/davies/thomas/Trans.htm Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123708 02/25/2004 1:40 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Thanks Bingley. Obviously I just didn't hit the right search words. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: doubting thomas #123709 02/25/2004 1:43 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont thanks, Bing for the links. some really good stuff there. my dad has read voraciously of all the Jesus Seminar material, and has encouraged me to as well, though for lack of time... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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