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I find that when I aggregate my experiences each day that I enter a phantasmagoria state if you will, thus allowing me to pursue my motto of “Peace is the concupiscence of happiness.” It is due to this mind set that enables me to be more of a pursuivant for those around me.
So as to wether or not I lay it on the line, as it were? Yes. And I do it with glee.
Oh, btw I am female.
Peace is the concupiscence of happiness,
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So as to wether or not I lay it on the line, as it were? Yes. And I do it with glee.I just found you, Reverend Engenderer. http://allpoetry.com/poets/AlimaeHPHow did u find this place? Having experienced your writing style first-hand, I would say your self-analysis is pretty much dead on. "There is much dubiety surrounding my particular method of poetry style as it were. It has been related to me that at times my style is along the lines of being entirely to bravura and at other times it is conundrum which is to difficult to comprehend."Love your poetry, Reverend, but your motto is beginning to fade on me. It was a conundrum the first time I saw it, but I don't think I can bravura much more of it ... as it were. Thanks.
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It was never my intention to cause any type of problems, for that I do apologize. I must thank you for bringing this to my attention and I have corrected it. If in the future you find something that is offensive or causes one problems, please feel free to inform me and I will attempt to correct what ever the aberration may be.
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Back to the main reason I posted on this forum, is there anyone whom might have any suggestions as to where I might find the meaning to my name? “Pailani” I guess what I am looking for is some type of direction as to where I might be able to begin my search, this would include being able to break my name down into its’ myriad parts.
I would appreciate any type of help that can be offered.
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Thank you so much for your warm welcome and I will do my utmost to not let you down.
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In answer to your question of "How did u find this place? BTW what's an "engenderer"?
I found AWAD through the net, just as I found AP. I have been looking for a site that would allow me to speak in my normal fashion with out having to think about how I am going to verbalize what I say. Though I am finding that it does not matter what site I go to, I seem to use words that are entirely to hard to comprehend.
An Engenderer is a transitive verb meaning to have offspring: to cause offspring to be conceived or born ( formal ) : beget, give birth to, generate, propagate, spawn
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Pailani
There is a "Pailani" in India in a Region known as Banda.
TASHIL, Block & Thana
There are four Tahsils namely Banda, Naraini, Baberu and Atarra comprising eight blocks of Badokhar-khurd, Jaspura, Tindwari, Naraini, Mahua, Baberu, Bisanda and Kamasinfrom the present district of Banda.
There are seventeen thanas namely Kotwali City, Kotwali Dehat, Mataundh, Tindwari, Pailani, Chilla, Naraini, Atarra, Girwa, Kalinjar, Badousa, Bisenda, Baberu, Kamasin, Fhateganj, Jaspura and Marka.
Maybe this is your "Pailani", Reverend.
Hope it helps.
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Grapho,
Considering India was originally of the Samarian Empire at one time, that would make sense. You have been of immense assistance to me, for this is more information then I had to begin with. Now I actually have a direction in which to direct my search.
I am in your debt and am very thankful to you for this,
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>Considering India was originally of the Samarian Empire
Did you mean Sumerian? The only references to a Samarian Empire I could find were to some sort of elvish D&D type world.
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India was never part of the Sumerian empire, which extended no further east than the western extremities of modern-day Iran and no further south than Kuwait. As far as I can tell, India's only ever been part of the Moghul and British empires.
[Edit] Which is not to say that parts of India, particularly the north and west, have not been overrun in the past, notably, I guess, by Alexander the Great!
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Alimae, please click on "Check Private" at the top of the page.
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your searchInvestigating the history of this 5000 year old alabaster statue (originally known as the Lady of Warka and now the Sumerian Mona Lisa) may give you some further leads, Reverend. http://in.news.yahoo.com/030923/137/27yrx.htmlShe looks a bit like you ... wouldn't you say?
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It might help to know how you got your true name Pailani. How did you find out it was Sumarian / Samarian?
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Pailani struck me as being Hawai'ian. don't know why, it just did. a search at alltheweb.com confirmed both the Indian and Hawai'ian usages. 
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...but your motto is beginning to fade on me.
It was a conundrum the first time I saw it, but I don't think I can bravura much more of it ... as it were.Who said subtlety is lost on the internet?  ******* AlimaeHP - Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale...
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Capfka,
I stand corrected. I was not aware that India was never a part of the Sumerian empire. The information that I have consists of the following where in during the 5th millennium B.C. people known as the Ubaidians established settlements in the region known later as Sumer; these settlements gradually developed into the chief Sumerian cities, namely Adab, Eridu, Isin, Kish, Kullab, Lagash, Larsa, Nippur, and Ur. Several centuries later, as the Ubaidian settlers prospered, Semites from Syrian and Arabian deserts began to infiltrate, both as peaceful immigrants and as raiders in a quest of booty. After about 3250 B.C., another people migrated from its homeland, located probably northeast of Mesopotamia, and began to intermarry with the native population. The newcomers, who became known as Sumerians, spoke an agglutinative language unrelated apparently to any other known language.
The information I had concerning India being a part of the empire was supplied to my via a professor of ancient history up at the local university. I do believe I will give him a call and have a discussion with him concerning this, hopefully I will leave with an understanding as to what his reasons behind his belief are.
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This is what occurs when one attempts to catenate anything after being awake for almost 24 hours. Yes, my intention was to write Sumerian and not Samarian.
I appreciate your pointing that out to me.
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My father was a historian as well as a scholar, it was he who named me and prior to his death he explained that it was the combination of two Sumerian words. Unfortunately I was entirely way too young to remember them, and I now have no way of asking him for he died in 1980 from a head injury. Thus, I find myself forging ahead blindly attempting to ascertain the meaning of it on my own. I have attempted to do this for some years, to no avail. Thus I find myself asking for any advice or assistance that may be given from the members of AWAD.
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Etaoin,
I would love to be able to say that my name is Polynesian, more precisely originating from the Hawaiian islands,; unfortunately the correct spelling of the name in their language is Paloni with the meaning of Goddess of the Sea or Ocean. Thus, as you can see, it is not the same name.
Another distinguishing feature of my name is the vowel make up. It has a very distinct linguistic pronunciation, also making it difficult to locate the exact meaning or root(s) there of.
As for my name originating in India or there being a town in India with my name; the internet is notorious for having misspelt words. If you do a search on my name “pailani” it brings up a supposed city with my name, unfortunately the actual spelling of that city is “Pilani” which as you can see is not the same.
So in closing you can see that it would be easy to assume that it is of either language or origin.
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Thank you for helping me to smile.
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ah well. though, seems as if linguistically you might wordize it however you'd like...
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Ok, in my opinion this site is almost freaky. At the moment I am not entirely sure what I should be thinking.
Thank you for the information and the link.
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...this site is almost freaky..."Almost"? Then I must be slacking... ...I mean, we are *in "Wordplay and Fun". 
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You do have a good point, but it was weird seeing a bust made thousands of years ago that has such an uncanny resemblance to me.
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don't mind him, that's our Morey...
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Sallyheh. nope, I would be that other handsome guy in the pic...
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ah well. though, seems as if linguistically you might wordize it however you'd like...
This is very true especially considering the various ways of spelling different names. My questions though is when you have different cultures whom, to my knowledge, and please feel free to correct me if I err on this part, are thousands of miles apart, do not have any communications between them and have names that are similar yet with distinctly different meanings, how can we say that they are the same?
I mean, if I were to say that my name “Pailani” is a bastardization of Paloni, then I would be able to say that the connotations imply that the meaning is of a goddess of the sea, yet that would be a lie due to the fact that the two societies, Sumeria and Hawaii do not have any connections.
Now it is more likely that the Indian name of “Pilani” could be closer due to the regional area that it is located in as well as the proximity to the old Sumerian empire. Yet it could be distinctly different as well.
Thus the reason for my attempt to ascertain the exact meaning of my name, so that there will be no confusion or questionable doubt as to its intended allusion.
In closing, may I ask what does “Wordize” mean? I believe I understand what you are portraying, I am just curious as to the definition of the word for it is one I have never come across before.
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well, it sounds pretty much like the Sumerian derivation is the correct one. have you found the two words with which your name was made? Pai and Lani? or Pail and Ani? etc.? the Hawai'ian thing just sounds(!) like one of those coincidences of language. as for wordize... we recently had a thread about izing everything. figured it fit well here. I think that with the fluidity of language, especially these days, and the cross culturality of the internet, we have almost reached a moment where words can mean what we wish them to be. a chaotic bifurcative experience sits waiting for the right impetus... your name, can mean what you want it to mean; informed by its parts and history, but wholly you. thanks for making me think about this...
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The newcomers, who became known as Sumerians, spoke an agglutinative language unrelated apparently to any other known language.
Just to be pedantic, they are no records of any languages related to Sumerian. But since Sumerian is Earth's oldest recorded language (may have tied with Chinese, but all the evidence is not in yet), we don't really know if Sumerian was an isolate or not. We don't know what the Ubaidians called themselves (their name comes from a placename) or what language they spoke.
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AlimaeHP, here is an online Sumerian dictionary. http://www.sumerian.org/sumerlex.htm. I hope this helps you in your quest. Bingley
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My father was a historian as well as a scholar, it was he who named me Wow, and he must really have loved you! Looketh, from Bingley's link:
pa: leaf, bud, sprout; branch; wing; feather
i*: v., to capture, defeat, overcome
la: abundance, luxury, wealth; youthful freshness and beauty; bliss, happiness; wish, desire
ní: self; body; one's own
*I am wondering whether he perhaps put an i so that the word might "read" better in English. Look at one of the def.'s for é: é: house, household; temple; plot of land Although the noun version of i might have been literal: i: n., cry of pain
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Bingly, The website was very informative if not slightly confusing to me, yet greatly appreciated. Thank you for locating the site and for informing me of its existence, for it has been enabled me to complete my quest. Jackie, Thank you from the bottom of my heart for figuring this out for me, I actually took a look at it last night and was confused by it. Then again this might have had something to do with the fact that my mind was in shut down mode due to lack of sleep. It is amazing to me that my life mirrors the meaning of my name so closely. Going off of this I would have to say that my father wanted the In reply to:
noun version of i
might have been literal: i : n., cry of pain”
For everyone else whom assisted in my endeavor,
Thank you for taking time out of your day to offer suggestions, advice or encouragement. It has been received with great exhilaration. I find myself feeling in debated to all.
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pa: leaf, bud, sprout; branch; wing; feather
i*: v., to capture, defeat, overcome
la: abundance, luxury, wealth; youthful freshness and beauty; bliss, happiness; wish, desire
ní: self; body; one's own
This is not exactly how I would go about doing this if I were you, but to each her/his own. Picking single syllables out of a short, online dictionary and concatenating them doesn't necessarily give you a Sumerian name or even a word. I wonder what AlimaeHP's dad did. Was he an ANE historian or a Sumerologist? When I first looked at the string pailani, as little as I know about Sumerian, I thought what's that diphthong doing there. I couldn't find any example of 'ai' in the online Sumerian Lexicon. Not saying it doesn't exist, just if it does, it's rare. I wonder if there are two roots: pail and ani, or pai and lani. Couldn't find either. This weekend, I going to the university library to renew my card, and I'll take a look at a bigger Sumerian lexicon.
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I must confess, when it comes to languages other then Latin, and English, I know very little. I would be very interested in seeing what you are ably to discover. I appreciate your taking the time to go to the library to research this for me. As for whether or not my father was an ANE historian or a Sumerologist, I believe, and I may be wrong, that he was a Sumerologist.
“I wonder if there are two roots: pail and ani, or pai and lani.” From the understanding that I do poses, which is very little, my name is a compilation of two words, so yet again this makes more sense. Though it is interesting as well as exciting to see what a breakdown of the letters would give; especially considering this is farther then I have ever gotten in my search.
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we recently had a thread about izing everything.So you might say eta took "word" and etaoinized it.
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I guess that puts the izing on the cake...
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my name means *****=princess *****=bright *******=son of grace, or possibly love, there is some dispute.
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