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#122662 02/12/2004 3:49 AM
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gonold..made a post about his name and its meaning got me thinking.. maybe a thread about names would be fun.

for years, i have read that my name, HELEN, is from a old greek word for a lighthouse (or an artifical light source) the Hel was from the same root word of helio (as in sun) but Helen was definiately signifigantly less than a sun!... (likewise Hellenism was the idea of old greek knowledge being a 'beacon light' to the world.)

lah de da, nice enough, but for this thread i consulted
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition/2000
and what they said was something totaly different!

Hel·en
PRONUNCIATION: hln
NOUN: Greek Mythology The daughter of Zeus and Leda and wife of Menelaus, considered to be the most beautiful woman in the world. Her abduction by Paris caused the Trojan War.
ETYMOLOGY: Greek Helen. See wel-2 in Appendix I.


http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE565.html
To turn, roll; with derivatives referring to curved, enclosing objects.
Derivatives include waltz, willow, wallow, revolve, valley, and helix.

Nothing to do with light! so whats the story of your name (real, or cyber name!--or the name you wished you had.)


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The reason the K1W1s all hate me so as because I tell them what to do with their sheep.

Faldage; the right of the lord of the manor to have his tenants pasture their sheep where he tells them to, for fertilization of the soil.


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The concept of droit du seigneur in the above context is, of course, unthinkable.


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My name is Name.


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Or, in Hawaiian = Inoa
Welcome!

My name is Ann and it seems to be common in every language with myriad meanings. From Chinese as Peace to English often given as graceful or queenly.
I'd be interested in what meanings other languages give it.
My Hawaiian friends gave me the name Na'ho'ailona which means "one who reads the omens." Rather fiting for the High Priestess of the Board! ;-) - and it was given long before I found AWAD.




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My name Amy means "beloved."

Coffeebean got her name from a teenage friend of mine who had the habit of saying to me: "know what I mean, jellybean?" One day, with latte in hand I replied, "I'm more of a coffeebean, don't you think?" And the name stuck.


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I have seen two origins for Carol
1)Song of joy - this is supposed to come from the French and is the one I prefer especially since I was born in December.
2)The feminine version of Charles - but Charles is supposed to mean strong and manly so what the heck is the feminine version of that? Wimpy and womanly? Butch?
On the whole I'd prefer to be a Christmas Carol (all together now - aaawwwww)


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In reply to:

The concept of droit du seigneur in the above context is, of course, unthinkable.


So how come you thought it?

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how come you thought it?

Some unthinking persons had mentioned it in earlier incarnations of this thread and the lovely AnnaS was merely attempting to forestall such digressions in this incarnation.


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Which have, of course, already begun. It was probably overrated anyway ...


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My first name, Rachel, means "ewe" or "purity" depending on where you look. My middle name, Lynn, means a "cascade or waterfall" or "pretty" again depending on which names dictionary you look in. My last name means "Brilliant", "Landowner", or "the Crown of his Country."

Does that make me a pretty lamb who is a landowner? Or maybe I am a pure, brilliant waterfall...

This is another good site for looking up names:

http://www.ivillage.com/namefinder


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Does that make me a pretty lamb who is a landowner?

I dunno. You better talk to Faldage about that.


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ask Faldage

I guess that would mean you can pretty well pasture wherever you want to.


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I, Roger, a famous spearman, have always enjoyed my name auf Deutsch: Rutger.
and I am, of course, jolly.




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This root ger is also found in garlic 'spear-leek'.


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oh. thanks.






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oh. thanks.

I'm sorry. It wasn't meant as a dig at yer moniker, really. Is it because you dislike garlic? or because it disses your name?


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My real-life name is Dagny. Many well-read people ask me if I was named after the Ayn Rand character in Atlas Shrugged... but no. In fact, my parents & I didn't even learn of the book until I was in high school. Dagny is actually a traditional Norwegian name that translates literally to "New Day". My mom really wanted me to have a Norwegian name (both my parents are Norwegian, whether by birth or by heritage), so my dad made a list for her before I was born. As soon as my mom saw "Dagny" on the list, she knew that was the one. My middle name is Pernille, after my dad's sister.

I'm glad I'm a girl, though... I would have been Halvor had I been a boy, after my mom's father. I'm sure it was a fine name for Depression-era North Dakota, but I'm certain it would have been good for nothing but schoolyard poundings when I was growing up. I mean, "Dagny" was hard enough during the 80s Valley Girl thing. "Gag me with a spoon" morphed into "Dagny with a spoon", plus I had the redhead stigma. Ah, the crosses we bear.

As for Fiberbabe, I initially chose it based on my sewing background, plus the "Cyberbabe" wordplay thing. Naturally, given this crowd, many have opted to ignore that and ascribe a dietary context to it... So fine, I've decided to embrace that. Capfka embraced it too, and calls me Junior Wheatgerm. That finally explains his periodic "JW" references for the non-old-timers!


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oh. thanks.

I'm sorry. It wasn't meant as a dig at yer moniker, really. Is it because you dislike garlic? or because it disses your name?


ah, I missed this one a couple of days ago!
no, I was just kidding around. the emoticon supply is lacking here, and I should have added a wink or two...
"spear-leek" just doesn't quite have a ring to it though, does it?



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Dunno why I'm doing this since it's an old and not interesting story, but my online name(s) stem from my own. Shanks is a contraction of my middle name, and 'sunshine warrior' is a creative interpretation of the meanings of my first and last names (which come from Sanskrit and Malayalam respectively). So there... :-)


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Am I the only one who looks across both ponds for "a little help" on this one...?

"...means "ewe" or "purity" depending on where you look."



... I don't know where to start the *innuendo(es).

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My online name here has many layers of definitions (what else is new), the most obvious of which is that I've been a musician for @ 8/9ths of my life, and I started when I was under 5yrs old.

Although 'music' has developed to mean the common "sound based structures" to which the name is attributed, I'd like to think it as (possibly was once defined/understood as) "of or having the qualities of (a) 'muse'."

Aside from it being an original, maybe the first written form of the word we know and use as "music"... the "sick" part, well, you'll just have to shtick around a while...


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... I don't know where to start the *innuendo(es).

That's OK, I already did.


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When I lived in Mexico, family and friends had a little trouble wrapping their tongues around my foreign, American sounding given name, Connie, so I took the name Consuelo and I'm not giving it back . It suits me (like musick's suits him like a one pound onion) and is an interesting blend of my given name and my middle name, a blend I much prefer to the unblended version. For more info on my taken name, check here:

http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=41994


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muse n
[ME, fr. L Musa, fr. Gk Mousa the nine sister goddesses in Greek mythology presiding over song and poetry and the arts and sciences] 1 : a source of inspiration 2 : poet


music n
[ME musik, fr. OF musique, fr. L musica, fr. Gk mousike any art presided over by the Muses, esp. music, fr. fem. of mousikos of the Muses, fr. Mousa Muse] : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having rhythm, melody, or harmony

myrmidon n


from this site:
http://www.kl.oakland.edu/kraemer/edcm/




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droit du seigneur

I had to look that one up to see if it means what I thought it means:

"(French: “right of the lord”), a feudal right said to have existed in medieval Europe giving the lord to whom it belonged the right to sleep the first night with the bride of any one of his vassals."

Looks like those "male bonding rituals" are rubbing off on you, AnnaS.

Ewe et mon droit.

Faldo should emblazon that on his coat-of-arms! [At least on his Jockey shorts.]

Maybe he already has. Too much to hope you will share that with us? [I'm already in stitches. I'll even pay for the seamstress.]




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Unfortunately, I have never known the meaning of my true name. For it is Pailani...the only thing I know of it is that it is from the old Sumarian language. Other then that, I have no idea. Maybe some one whom reads this might have a clue and be able to direct me in the right direction so that I may discover the meaning.

Peace is the concupiscence of happiness,

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Reverend Alimae - Although I cannot help you with your discovery process, I do wish you a hearty welcome to our 'linguistic mosh pit'. I'll assure you you'll find someone here who "has a clue".


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Thank you so much for welcoming me as well as giving me encouragement to continue with my quest. I look forward to being able to offer my style of catechizing different linguistic words.

Peace is the concupiscence of happiness,

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Peace is the concupiscence of happiness

I, too, wish you success with your quest, Reverend Alimae,
and I trust you will find peace and happiness when your concupiscence is satisfied.



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when your concupiscence is satisfied

ah, but what about the journey, not the destination?





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ah, but what about the journey, not the destination

If "the journey" is your peace and happiness, etaoin, you do not have "a strong desire" for it. You are too busy living it, and enjoying it, in the moment.

If, on the other hand, "the destination" is the reason for your journey, you may have to suspend your peace and happiness until you get there.

"Strong desires" can be sublimated, etaoin, but usually they have to be sated or extinguished to achieve a condition of meaningful peace and happiness.

The American Heritage Dictionary defines "concupiscence" thus:

"A strong desire, especially sexual desire; lust."

A person can have a "strong desire" for peace or happiness, but they won't experience either one until they lose their desire for it.

I think it is probably true that most of us have to desire peace or happiness to find them, but, once found, desire, like dew, evaporates in the morning sun.

Some people find peace and happiness without looking for them. Or even desiring them.

Whoever wrote "Zipidee Doo Dah" understood that.

"Zipidee Doo Dah, Zipidee Ay
My of my, what a wonderful day
Plenty of sunshine, plenty all day
Zipidee Doo Dah, Zipidee Ay."

Kids who are loved and cared for don't have to look for peace and happiness.

They just have to rediscover them once they grow up.







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>>peace and happiness<<

Now, I could be wrong but I don't think that's exactly what etaoin had in mind. But, rather, what Peter Boyle heard put succinctly in the 1970 feature, 'Joe,' "It's not a race." [Note: it's 34 years since I heard the line and if I ain't dead on, I'm in the ballpark.]


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etaoin,
Ah, but that is the beauty of it all. It is my experience that through the drive to obtain happiness, one is able to find peace and visa versa. Thus the journey is never ending, making it always something to strive for.

Peace is the concupiscence of happiness,

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Ah, but that is the beauty of it all.

I believe 'twas my point.



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Thus the reason I was agreeing. I just wrote it out alitle more so that others would understand that. Btw, thank you.

Peace is the concupiscence of happiness,

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ah, my humblest apologies for mis-understanding.




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ah, yes, the beauty of it all.

How wonderfully succinct. It looks like we are all in full agreement.

"Peace is the concupiscence of happiness."

Need we say more? Or need we say it again?

The poignancy might go off this aphorism if we trot it out too often.


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what if one is concupiscent for concupiscence?



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what if one is concupiscent for concupiscence?

If the Reverend believes concupiscence will bring him happiness, at least he's laying it on the line.

Ex-President Carter laid it on the line in a television interview back in the '80s, and his concupiscence brought him nothing but headaches.

How times have changed!







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I look forward to being able to offer my style of catechizing different linguistic words.

I'm waiting with bated breath!


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