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#122371 02/11/04 01:55 AM
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They say a clean house is the sign of a crashed computer. That made me laugh out loud, Connie! :-))

As to the "computer users are more..." thing, did the people who wrote up the study happen to mention that, by the very fact that someone knows how to use a computer, it's pretty well a given that they have at least a certain level of education? And that this level tends to be higher than average? And that, overall, the higher the education level, the more likely people are to be all those things mentioned above except maybe trusting?
That may not hold true too much longer, and indeed may already be slipping, as computers in schools have become commonplace and computer users are getting younger.


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that someone knows how to use a computer, it's pretty well a given that they have at least a certain level of education? And that this level tends to be higher than average?
Ok. That sounds good. But. How to explain the 10-year-old down the street who is a computer whiz? Not much age, experience or education there!
Then there is a PhD I know who was at total loss how to clean out his old deleted Emails! I had to show him! And Heaven knows I ain't any whizz at the Internet/computer thing.
Just playin' Devil's Advocate here!


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How to explain the 10-year-old down the street who is a computer whiz? That's exactly what I was referring to in my last sentence above. Probably my argument only holds true for adults, these days.


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FWIW -

Northwest coast Indians (US/Canada) had a hunter-gatherer society...

Soc Sci 4 class in 1959, in the person of Clyde Kluckhohn, taught that the Potlatch was a custom of the Kwakiutl Indians. (That would be pronounced "kwock'-ee-OOT'-ll" . ) The tribe got together once a year and threw their possessions into the Columbia River. Whoever threw in the most was the richest and most important person in the tribe.

Not that anyone cares much, three weeks after the discussion has moved on, but it's such a refreshing name...


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I've always like the word Kwakiutl, even though it is now deprecated (see below). The 'tl' digraph represents a voiceless aspirated lateral stop, which sort of sounds like /tl/. A related sound is the 'll' digraph of Catalan or Welsh, which is a voicelesslateral fricative.

We have been called the Kwakiutl ever since 1849, when the white people came to stay in our territories. In fact, the Kwakiutl only occupy the village now called Fort Rupert. The rest of us have our own names and our own villages. For example, the Gwawa'enuxw live at Hopetown. Collectively, we call ourselves the Kwakwaka'wakw--that is, all of the people who speak the language Kwakwala.

http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/naind/html/na_019100_kwakiutl.htm

Also spelled Kwak'wala (with ejective or glottalized labio-velar). There are about 200 speakers left.


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Nahuatl, the Latin of Mesoamerica, has many words with "tl".
http://www.linguistlist.org/~ask-ling/archive-2000.1/msg04137.html
Tomato started out as tomatl, was Spanishized to tomate, and was Englishized into tomato.


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Yes, this too is a voiceless lateral fricative, like Welsh, Catalan, and Klingon (tlhIngan Hol). It may in fact be a postposed definite article, but I'll need to check on that. (Now where did I put that Nahuatl grammar?)


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Now where did I put that Nahuatl grammar? In her adobe hut?


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In her adobe hut?





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