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We plan to introduce online chat feature in AWAD where we'll invite guests
for moderated chat. We intend to begin this in a couple of weeks. We need
to do a test run before the actual event. And for this, we invite you to come
chat with Jacqulyn Fulner who has agreed to be the guest on Saturday, Dec 9
at 2 PM EST (7 PM GMT). The chat will run for an hour.



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Hmm, 09:00 on Sunday morning, well I'll be there in spirit anyway. I hope it goes well. Behave yourself, Jackie!


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1900 GMT? I might actually be able to make it. (Must remember to make note in trusty Psion...)

Enjoy yourself Jackie - and please don't give them cause to censor you!


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Hey, what is this, guys??
Just what kind of rep do you think I have, anyway?


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Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say it now Jackie, 1, 2, 3...

"What? Misbehave. Me? Why I never"



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Jackie,

Am I getting this right? You're the guest for the chat?

Anyway, I'll try to be there.


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Am I getting this right? You're the guest for the chat?


Incredible, isn't it? But that's what Anu says.


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Incredible, isn't it? But that's what Anu says.

Why incredible? Since we all know that Anu IS Jackie, he/she/they/you are the logical choice to be the first guest



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wow is plased to accept Wordsmith's kind invitation to the chat with Jackie on Saturday, Dec. 9 at 2 p.m. EST.
Now, does this invitee have to do something special with computer or do I just click on the information and announcements in Main? Some explicit directions (a map)please for the live-chat-impaired among us. Thank you, aloha, Namaste. WOW
PS May we have a namaste (phonetic from the Hindi, I hope)emoticon. It would be very useful when sending thanks or acknowledging superior wit etcetera. Like right here . wow


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So, we like, get to make an apointment with Jackie, and like, talk to her!?! Ya mean we like get to, like, talk to Jackie? Wow, that's totally awesome. Jackie's totally my hero, man!

oh, sorry, i saw an ad for some stupid movie about a kid who got drunk and lost his car and now i'm speaking stoner


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What are we going to talk about Jackie? Kentucky, the gutter and the new Cezanne?


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What are we going to talk about Jackie?

That'll be up to Anu. He is going to moderate the talk
(okay, okay, chat).

Now look, you-all--you-all're gonna run me up to 1100 if you keep up these direct-address kind of posts, and I'm trying to let tsuwm get there first.


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PS May we have a namaste (phonetic from the Hindi, I hope)emoticon.


Great idea - we'll ask Avy, Anu and Shanks to design one for us. I use namaste all the time - together with the clasped hands and nodded bow it has an elegance, deference and courtesy about it that I love.


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Jackie confesses: "you-all're gonna run me up to 1100 if you keep up these direct-address kind of posts, and I'm trying to let tsuwm get there first."

And the Vicar posted on 4 Dec 00: "Jackie's ... taken some sort of ascetic vow of non-posting in order to purify her soul during this most holy season of Advent."

I love to say I told you so.




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> together with the clasped hands and nodded bow it has an elegance, deference and courtesy about it that I love.

Max
Although a lot of people here now use the handshake, but Namaste, like the Saree, will never go out of fashion.

There is an enjoyable awkwardness that results from the use of both the namaste and the hand shake. You have just been introduced to the other you greet the person with hands folded in a Namaste to realize the other has his hand held out in an expectance of a shake. So you quickly change and hold out your hand only to find his hand is not there. He has withdrawn his hand to fold it to a Namaste. One person still has a hand held out and the other has his folded. You can carry on like that for a while making no contact at all.





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There is an enjoyable awkwardness that results from the use of both the namaste and the hand shake. You have just been introduced to the other you greet the person with hands folded in a Namaste to realize the other has his hand held out in an expectance of a shake. So you quickly change and hold out your hand only to find his hand is not there. He has withdrawn his hand to fold it to a Namaste. One person still has a hand held out and the other has his folded. You can carry on like that for a while making no contact at all.


I love it, Avy! The namaste/handshake greeting dilemma adds another dimension to "Should I kiss or not kiss?/Should I kiss on the lips or the cheek?/One cheek or two?/Should I contact or air-kiss?/Should I hug?/With or without mutual back-slapping?". The permutations of disastrous greetings/introductions are almost endless!



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I'd love to come, but 2 a.m. [weep]

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MQ said, by way of greeting: I use namaste all the time - together with the clasped hands and nodded bow it has an elegance, deference and courtesy about it that I love

As well as the hongi, Max? You'd wind up banging heads with a pleen-quordleing scream of pain!



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Bingley said, from under Jakarta's blanket of morning "mist": I'd love to come, but 2 a.m.(various emoticons)[weep].

Isn't there just something so, ah, interesting about being invited to an event on what is actually the day after the event has been an' gawn? I begin to understand Max's temporally-challenged choice of sobriquet for this board.





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"What? Misbehave. Me? Why I never"

Nobody suggeted that Jackie was going to misbehave, did they - they just asked her to behave

This injunction does not preclude her behaving badly.


Anyway, I'll try to be there, if my new abacus can be convinced to communicate through the sub-ether.



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Sad to say 7pm-8pm is kiddies' bedtime (for which the whole world stops) so I'll probably be unable to attend.

But try to enjoy yourselves anyway, folks!

Fisk

P.S. Will a transcript of the chat be available afterwards?


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I have problems with time; I tried five minutes ago to to log out, and the to log in again, and I received the message
Your last logon was at: Thu Dec 7 08:07:46 2000
Here (Italy) it is 3 p.m.(+ 7 hours)
I suppose
1) that the time of the Board is the time Est supposed for the chat
2) that I am no more than one hour far from the Greenwich time.
So there is a contradiction that I am not able to solve!
Help me!
Emanuela



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I suppose
1) that the time of the Board is the time Est supposed for the chat
2) that I am no more than one hour far from the Greenwich time.


Good point Emanuela.

It would appear that Board time is 6, not 5, hours behind GMT (I will confirm with this post). There is, however, the possibility that Board time is not Eastern Seaboard Time, but one hour behind. I am on GMT right now (hey, I only live a few miles from Greenwich) since we reverted from Summer Time a month and a half ago, and I too seem to be an hour out.

Let's see... Maybe the almighty Anu has a solution. (Yes Chief? Please? [supplicant emoticon])

cheer

the sunshine warrior

Postscriptum (or should this be postpostum?): Confirmed after posting this. The Board is 6 hours, not 5, shy of my time, and therefore presumably 7 hours from you.


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for whatever reason, the board seems to be on Central Standard Time (which is convenient for me :).
and for what it's worth, here is a time zone map:
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/AA/faq/docs/us_tzones.html


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for whatever reason, the board seems to be on Central Standard Time

So Emanuela was right. There is black in the dal! Anu was giving us standard time zones, not necessarily the Board time. Thanks tsuwm.


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As well as the hongi, Max? You'd wind up banging heads with a pleen-quordleing scream of pain!

Fortunately, I reserve the hongi for tangata whenua, the only people who don't seem intimidated by it!



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the board seems to be on Central Standard Time

My guess would be that it is in Eastern Standard Time (Anu does live in Cleveland), but it doesn't pay attention to Daylight Savings Time (like the strange states of Indiana and New Mexico).


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"Should I kiss or not kiss?/Should I kiss on the lips or the cheek?/One cheek or two?/Should I contact or air-kiss?/Should I hug?/With or without mutual back-slapping?". The permutations of disastrous greetings/introductions are almost endless!

Hi Marty,

I am assuming by your post that you do not live in a "kissing zone", and the phenomenon is relatively new. The rules are different depending upon which country you are in so you won't get a straight dictionary-like explanation. Here is what we (in Québec Drum ) usually stick to.

Men…
a) do not kiss each other (well some do, but we won't talk about that here )
b) kiss women family members and friends on both cheeks when greeting hello and goodbye but generally only when the women initiate it
c) shake hands with business associates/contacts et al
d) hug men only when the person is going through extremely troubling times (eg. death in family) and only when it is a family member or very close friend
d) shake hands with family members to congratulate them on good news
e) shake hands and do that "lean-in with one shoulder while still grasping the hand and tapping on the back thing", when they are congratulating a family member or close friend on good news (eg. wife just had baby, got married, and, and, well, that's about it. No other good news warrants all that touching)

Women…
a) kiss family members and friends on both cheeks when greeting hello and goodbye
b) kiss on both cheeks and hug a person they particularly like if they have not seen each other for a while, if they see the person is in need of some emotional support (anything from a bad breakup to a death in family) if they are sharing happy news (pregnancies et al) and anytime they darn well feel like it.
c) in business - shake hands if relationship is, how can I explain this, if it is all lines and square corners.
- kiss on both cheeks when the relationship is friendly/business. But this is only when two French people are dealing with one another. There is no business kissing when English people are involved as they tend to be much more reserved.


Kissing on the lips is only done with a significant other (how is that for covering all the bases).


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So when do we have to log on? I am seriously confused. I don't want to miss it but I am afraid I will either be an hour too early or an hour too late. Right now, my time is one hour ahead of the board (it is later in the day for me).




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Anu specified 2 PM EST (7 PM UTC); that would be 2PM your time, bel?!


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Here is what we (in Québec Drum ) usually stick to.

Thanks for the detailed instructions, bel. I suspect that if I ever visited your fair city, I'd be kissed on the forehead and top of my head a lot (and/or miss a lot of handshakes), whilst consulting my notes.

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Oh, and have a good chat, everyone. I won't be there (some ungodly hour on a Sunday morning for me). Look forward to hearing (reading!) how it went.

Cheers,
Marty


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Many thanks tsuwm


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If you are unsure of the time conversion for your city please use the
following link to
convert the time.
http://www.virtualtourist.com/cgi-bin/tconverter.vtc?s=@962156552-2126

This seems to work pretty well for me.




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Thanks to everyone who has shown interest in attending the
chat with Jackie as part of beta test. You can access it
at http://wordsmith.org/chat. Transcript will be available
after the event.
See you there!


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Not to degrade Jackie being a guest, but wow, chief editor of the OED for Dec. 19. Anu must have connections.

Of course, it couldn't be a worse time for me, unless I can convince my AP English/British Lit. teacher to let us participate.

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Now, does this invitee have to do something special with computer or do I just click on the information and announcements in Main? Some explicit directions (a map)please for the live-chat-impaired among us. Thank you, aloha, Namaste. WOW


Yes instructions please, just in case I do drag myself out of bed.

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Of course, it couldn't be a worse time for me,


You think it'll be a problem for you - try getting up 04:30, which is when I would have to get up to make that chat session. Never mind, I can still dream that at least one of the chat sessions will be at an Antipodean-friendly time.


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I don't think that is anything to be worried about. They will surely be spread out considering the great variety of countries represented here.


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I'm sorry I missed it. A little more advance warning would be appreciated by those of us who can't get here every day.
How'd it go?


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