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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Re: I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. #119884 01/22/2004 11:51 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 79 Dublin, Ireland hibernicus journeyman hibernicus journeyman Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 79 Dublin, Ireland Yes, betray is from betrayen from OFr trair from tradere from trans- plus dare. "Tradere", "vendere", etc. are 3rd conjugation, while the root "dare" is 1st declension. Note also - "sedeo": I sit; "sedo": I cause to be seated. In English we have transitive/intransitive pairs like lay/lie and set/sit (cf German legen/liegen and setzen/sitzen). I wonder if "trans-dare" -> tradere and "venum-dare" -> vendere are examples of a similar pattern? Do ut des. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Entire Thread Subject Posted By Posted I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. of troy 01/14/2004 12:10 AM Re: I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. jheem 01/14/2004 12:23 AM Re: I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. sjmaxq 01/14/2004 12:26 AM Re: I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. jheem 01/14/2004 12:41 AM Re: I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. hibernicus 01/22/2004 11:51 PM Re: I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. jheem 01/23/2004 5:02 AM Re: I am not a dowager.. or in my dotage.. gift horse 01/22/2004 4:45 PM Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Flat Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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