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Pride, or to act proudly.
 This question is prompted by the mission statement of a corporation -- something to the effect of "Proudly providing . . .".
 
 My question is, is this a positive statement, given the negative connotations of pride, as in "Pride goeth before a fall", and pride being one of the seven deadly sins, etc..
 
 I'd be most interested in the wisdom of your responses.
 
 Regards,
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...probably not a problem to proudly provide.
 
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While I admire your reasoning, musick, I can't agree with your generalisations for a moment since I think it's a completely unrealistic assessment of what makes humans tick.
 I see pride in every single person around me in daily life: when it is an internally focussed agent of creation and personal reward its effects are, I believe, mostly laudable.  When, like many of our other attributes, it is allowed to become an end in itself it grows into a pernicious evil.
 
 But I happily defer to your personal experience being true for you ~ 'tis well known that musicians are a special breed!  :)
 
 
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...an internally focussed agent of creation...
 You've sparked my internal force to create a new memory based on your explaination of what exactly® you mean.
 
 Is a 'sense of accomplishment' *truly talking about something else or is it just a less emotionally intense version of 'pride'?
 
 
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mmm, I guess it's a close cousin.  Wait, izzat a good thang or a baaad thang?!
 
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Your sounding a bit sheepish, there...
 Hey, Phranz...
 
 
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well mav, what do ewe expect when you ramble on?
 
 
 
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...are a special breed!- and -baaastard - and -...a close cousin. Are ewe trying to tell me something?  davego had no idea what he was starting... |  |  |  
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and lambing begins in ernest in a for'tnight, at candlemas! what will happen then, if this is what we are upto now?
 (i think i feel a limerick comming on)
 
 
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ernest must be getting worried...
 
 
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[stern look at all above post-ers except davego and Anna]I think Bingley's post in Musick's link (darn you, Musick, I haven't been to Metawords for ages and ages, and now all my New tags will have disappeared...) says it best, dave:Two different words in Indonesian: bangga and sombong.
 
 Bangga is a justifiable pride in one's achievements, sombong is an arrogant conviction that you are more important than anyone else.
 I think the corporation was at least aiming for people to think they meant the former.
 
 
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