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#11922 04/03/01 08:31 PM
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"castration is the equivalent" Not to this kid. Vasectomy changes little except ability to effect pregnancy, although there are said to be some sneaky aftereffects. The same cannot be said for being made a eunuch by the chippy chippy chop on a big black block, or astride a log. I'll be having nightmares.


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hysterectomy/male
The word for the equivalent procedure on a man is 'orchidectomy'= removal of the testes, or castration.

The same cannot be said for being made a eunuch by the chippy chippy chop on a big black block, or astride a log. I'll be having nightmares.

Discussion, anyone?

No! Yikes!


Ladies, we seem to have struck a nerve! The guys are
definitely hung-up about this.















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Regarding Equivalents:

To spay means to remove the ovaries of an animal.. -- wow

Ovaries--Analog: testes.
Therefore
Hysterectomy--Analog:Castration.
Simple.

Uterus--Analogy: no analogy.

My fellow fellows: face it, you will never be pregnant.

Question: Do you imagine more hysterectomies are performed by men, or by women?

This is Pelotas, signing off.



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Dear IP: I hate to say it, but 50 years ago there were too damned many hysterectomies done with insufficient grounds by men no psychiatrist could cure. Naturally I cannot document this.
Reply to IP's next post.
I have no idea of the ratio of male to female gynecologists, but I'll bet that the females do comparatively fewer needless hysterectomies.

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Dear IP: I hate to say it, but 50 years ago there were too damned many hysterectomies done with insufficient grounds by men no psychiatrist could cure.

To be clear: I was dead serious.

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For any of you who have access to a US Public Broadcasting System, check out your listings for any show featuring Christina Northrup MD. Her talks are on point and she is very funny!
Dr. Northrup has also written several books that are in print.
Her PBS programs are very informative as to the differences in "women's" medicine then and now. Mostly I have seen the programs as specials during fund raising time.
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In reply to:

My fellow fellows: face it, you will never be pregnant.



Leaving aside a few comedic characters in literature, very true and a bloody good thing. As my wife, a nurse as well as a mother, says, if men had to have babies the human race would never have reached grandchildren.


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if men had to have babies the human race would never have reached grandchildren.

On a similar note : if men gave birth to the second child we would have only two children per family ... which may sound cynical at first read but it also says something positive for the empathy of men to their womenfolk.

Now, in case you think I am being serious ...there's the old saying : "If men had babies, childbirth would be a sacrament."
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Wow, i am a little younger, but a lot more radical– "If men got pregnant-- abortion would be a sacrament!"

Look how men moan and groan about getting "internal examinations"-- for prostrates-- Now think about them once giving birth! (i have two children, my son was 9 lbs, with a 21 inch in circumference head, my daughter, at 9lbs, 15 oz, was 23 inches long and had a bigger head!) and my baby's didn't set any records for birth size-- I like to meet the man who could deliver a premie!


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how men moan and groan about getting "internal examinations"--

I've heard medical people say the closest men get to the labor of childbirth is passing a gallstone, and even that's just an indication.
How about it you MD Board members? (I think we have at least two. Alex Williams and dear Bill.)
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