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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Scarborough warning #115496 11/08/2003 2:20 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... A friend just sent me this fascinating look at the old English folk song, Scarborough Fair, rearranged, of course, by Simon & Garfunkle in the 60's. And there was some interesting word lore here. The background of the herb imagery is also especially intriguing. "Scarborough warning" still means 'without any warning' in today's English. http://www.geocities.com/paris/villa/3895/ (scroll down to "Explanation of the Lyrics," second paragraph, for the history of the phrase) Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scarborough warning #115497 11/08/2003 3:09 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont that's a fun read! thanks WO'N! I have an arrangement of it scheduled for my 5/6 graders to sing next Spring. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scarborough warning #115498 11/10/2003 5:14 PM Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 180 Austin, TX gift horse member gift horse member Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 180 Austin, TX That is really neat. I've always wondered what that song meant. Now I know. I especially liked these lines: Love imposes impossible tasks Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme Though not more than any heart asks And I must know she's a true love of mine How true of love. Thank you for the link! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scarborough warning #115499 11/10/2003 7:52 PM Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... Wordwind Carpal Tunnel Wordwind Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... The map information indicates (and I quote): the Viking settlement in North Yorkshire in the north-west of England became a very important port as the dark ages drew to a close. However, the map on the page shows that Scarborough was on the north-east coast. What gives? Just an editing error? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scarborough warning #115500 11/10/2003 8:51 PM Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 180 Austin, TX gift horse member gift horse member Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 180 Austin, TX However, the map on the page shows that Scarborough was on the north-east coast. What gives? Yes. Last I checked Yorkshire was in the North-east of England, so looks like a typo to me. Maybe we could e-mail the people who made the webpage and ask them. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scarborough warning #115501 11/11/2003 4:23 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky http://www.find-our-community.net/region/Europe/Western_Europe/UK/Northern_England/North_Yorkshire_map.htm I meant to respond to this yesterday, but got distracted. This is the neatest link! Thank you, Sweet WO'N! I especially liked the explanation of the symbolism of the herbs. I don't think I've ever heard the term Scarborough Warning, but I was still interested to read: This is why a 'Scarborough warning' still means 'without any warning' in today's English. Perhaps this expression is more common in Great Britain than here? This was another surprise: the lieu d'action of the song . To me, it read as though the writer just suddenly switched to French for these words. Is this another common phrase I have been in ignorance of? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scarborough warning #115502 11/11/2003 4:39 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta I don't think I've ever heard the expression. 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