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we need the facts of the situation at hand to begin to construe whether the silence had been either critical or consensual
Well said, Wordwind.
"Silence gives consent" is a wise saying of general truth of no truth if used unwisely.
We give silent assent only to those who are doing our bidding, unbidden.
I'll check my email, too, AnnaS.
Ostracism will be sweet punishment if it lays bare the "power structure" hidden beneath the posts. :)
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People who live in moss houses shouldn't roll stones.Agreed. And people who roll stones shouldn't roll them over moss. :) Regarding ostrichisms. Very original. You've earned your ounce today, Faldage. 
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Although the meaning implied by the saying "seems to be" is actually® "seems to me to be" (sorry if that wuzn't clear enough), I continue here as understood as "giving personal perspective" ...which makes me wonder why you'd give historical reference... A reconstruction... The institution of ostracism...... to show me how "ostracism is employed". Hey, but it does *seem to allow for its use all the times other than (as well as)"not so much".  Now, whether or not it's *better... well, knock yerself out trying to prove that, but don't be surprized if I don't answer... he-he
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Just a quick harkening back to the originating post [gasp]: moss, I like your word urbanality! Did you coin it? (I must have been really rushing, the first time through. In fact, I know I was: I remember wondering where on earth I-forgot-who came up with the ref. to Van Damme hats, or whatever they are!
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did you coin it?
Thank you, Jackie. Yes I did. It got lost in the dust up over "the hoi polloi". :)
P.S. to Musick: Re: "A reconstruction... The institution of ostracism..."
I should have put this passage, including title, in quotes. Can't explain the author's construction. He/she sounds like a history prof.
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did you coin it?
Thanks for link, Faldage. I see my coinage is not the first. Alas, fame is fleeting.
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With only 784 hits, you're in the forefront.
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With only 784 hits, you're in the forefront.You wear me out, Faldage. What's that supposed to mean? Are you implying that I used a coinage at the top of this thread, and then waited for someone to ask me if I coined it 7 pages later so I could take illicit credit for coining it? If that's what you are implying, Faldage, why not have the courage to come right out and say it? I have no idea where you found those "784 hits" you mention, but I contributed to exactly one of those hits within seconds after you posted your Google link to "urbanality". So that puts me at the rear end of those "784" hits, not exactly "in the forefront". I was going to ignore your snide remark, Faldagger, but I'm an omegatist.
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hey, i thought Faldage was complimenting you!
there are some of us, who are now just 'learning' what pasheema is (not me, but a 'uncool' friend of mine) and there are some (like you and my daughter) who always seem to know what the next trend will be, before the rest of us..
i knit.. early in the spring, i sent my daugther in law a package, and i includes a sampler, and directions for a half dozen 'semi fancy' stitches.. this fall, there are 3(three!) different knitting magazines that are featuring articles on the same subject! articles that no doubt got there start in the spring. -- did i start the 'trend'? hell no.. i just happened to 'have the same thought at the same time' and since three editors all thought it was 'a good idea', (read- something new--even though the stitches are old, they haven't been used/featured in knitted garments for a long while) they all selected to run similar articles..
the three writers, were they in cahoots? not with me, and i doubt with each other. they were all just quick to catch 'what was new' in the air.. as did you!
i don't see this as a race, where coming in a second or two ahead of someone else makes a difference.. but with under 1000 uses, the word is new, and you introduced it here. (and you are one of several people who 'pulled it out of the air' while the rest of us were sleeping!)good for you, and thanks!
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I don't see this as a race, where coming in a second or two ahead of someone else makes a difference.. but with under 1000 uses, the word is new, and you introduced it here
You are too kind, de Troy.
But I can't take credit for introducing anyone to a new word thinking it was an emerging word.
I am no different than most of the other people who post here. I don't have time to track emerging words.
Google allows us to find emerging words once we know what they are, but as far as I know, it does not alert us to emerging words so that we can claim we have coined them for the first time.
No doubt, that service exists somewhere on the Net, but I am not really into that, personally.
A propos of that, I wonder how many people over the centuries have coined new words thinking their coinage was the first, without ever being disabused of the notion in their lifetime. Google makes it possible to debunk such delusions in seconds.
Actually, I don't think "urbanality" is such a terrific invention. It was just a play on words that seemed to work with the subject of this thread. That's all.
But, thanks for giving me undeserved credit for being in the vanguard of wordsmithing, de Troy. Wish I could lay claim to that.
If there was nothing snide implied in Faldage's remark, then he has my sincere apology.
Faldage created a certain tone when he suggested that I was "rolling stones" when I simply object to having stones rolled over me ... by Faldage or anyone else. In this, I am no different than anyone else, I believe.
Personally, I would hope that we can get beyond that, but someone has to make the first move. Or they can banish me, whatever "works" for them.
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re:Faldage created a certain tone when he suggested that I was "rolling stones" when I simply object to having stones rolled over me
yeah, but...
Faldage is the Fool! (i haven't checked his profile of late, but he used to point it out in his profile.)
faldage pokes fun at everyone.. he has a silly looking septer, with bell and ribbons, (and a hidden sharp point!) and if you startle too much when jabbed, its a bit funny. (well funny for the rest of us!) and you're more likely to be jabbed again! --we've all be jabbed.. (and laughed at other too!) but his sharp point is pinprick, not a dagger! and he dance round and makes noise, and entertains us, and yup, every once in a while, the fool plays us. is it personal? yes, it damn well is! it wouldn't be funny to make a play on words about rolling stones with my name... but he has made word plays with all of us.
Faldage is not an authority, or anyone important, he is the Fool. enjoy the show, and enventually you'll even enjoy when you're the co-star in one of his word plays!(pinprick not withstanding!)
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enventually you'll even enjoy when you're the co-star in one of his word plays!(pinprick not withstanding!
I can enjoy a "pin prick" just as much as anyone else, de Troy. But I do know when I have been slammed, unprovoked, with a blunt instrument.
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omegatist?An "omegatist" is a particular strain of egotist. It is someone with a compulsion to have "the last word" in any argument. It was the subject of a thread a long time ago. P.S. If I was part of the cast, no doubt I would feel differently about "co-starring" with Faldage. Not that I wish to be part of the "cast", mind you. It's just that when you are part of the cast, you know who your friends are, and who's running the show. As AWADtalk is a public forum without membership fees (as far as I know), I don't think anyone, or any "cast", has the right to 'run the show'. That's what this is really all about, de Troy.
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http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=miscellany&Number=44141Thank you. Very helpful, Faldage. I will take that as the "first move" in restoring courtesy and civility to our exchanges. P.S. I hope we are not going to duel to find out who is the most incorrigible "omegatist". 'Cause it's me, of course.
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....and who's running the showWhat, you don't all just perform for me? we all part of the 'cast' and we're all running the show... some day are great, others are so so.. but once you begin to post here, you're part... you make the play your own. its different, and reflects you, and your input, even if you just post a smiley! you certainly seem bright enough, and fast enough on your feet (or is it fingertips?) to entertain and be entertaining. we really are nice people... and i think you are too, i am just surprized again and again, (but then i have trouble with 'tone',too) that posts i see as fun, are seen differently by you. (and both our views/interpertations are valid!)
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posts i see as fun, are seen differently by you. (and both our views/interpertations are valid!What is seen as "humorous" is often just a matter of perspective, de Troy, as you know. Depends on whether you are on the inside looking out, or on the outside looking in. But I like your attitude. And it certainly would be great if AWADtalk is, or could become, the type of place you believe it is. I offered no offence to anyone until offence was offered to me. Those who occupy a position of influence should be more, not less, careful about disparaging 'humor' than outsiders like myself, I think, because they have a built-in cheering section. In deference to your exemplary diplomacy, I cede the last post to you, de Troy. [Just kidding.]
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outsiders like myself
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Sat Oct 20 17:11:03 2001Why am I not surprised at this response, Faldage? Keep stirring it up. You might just wear me out. And, in the process, prove that you are more of an omegatist than I am.
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OK, since I saw the views at this post totaled 666, I just had to add this... ***************************** But I do know when I have been slammed...It's quite clear that you don't, since you haven't been... but, then again, you're, of course, welcome to define 'slammed' anyway you'd like, as long as you acknowledge others' comfortableness with defining it as they do... (please don't ask what that is ). That's what this is really all about, de Troy.For you *this may be the case, but the only evidence (oh my God , what did I just say ) to this lies in how frequent a single person posts... and then the person who is "running the show" in that respect is our dear Dr.Bill (aka. wwh)... not that there's anything (at all) wrong with that... Depends on whether you are on the inside looking out, or on the outside looking in.As you've said (and we all agree) this is a public forum... this ain't the 'bourgeoisie -vs- the proletariat'. But I like your attitude. And it certainly would be great if AWADtalk is, or could become, the type of place you believe it is.There's no place like home.... there's no place like home... there's no place like home... ... I offered no offence to anyone until offence was offered to me.I think I've been insulted. I offered you offence but you didn't take it. Not good enough, I guess. Hey, Faldage, I think he likes you...[giggle]Those who occupy a position of influence (Now I know you're not talking about Faldage!) should be more, not less, careful about disparaging 'humor' than outsiders like myself, I think, because they have a built-in cheering section. GO, Moss, GO! Go, Moss, GO! Go, Moss, GO! Gimme an M... Gimme an O... Gimme an S... Gimme another S. What's it spell?!? GooooooOOOOOOOO MOSS! In deference to your exemplary diplomacy (call it what you want), I cede the last post to you, de Troy. [Just kidding.] I knew that.
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What is pasheema? Some sort of Indian food?
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Great resource! I'm stealing this for the social board I admin.
Thanks!
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What is pasheema
A typo, Bingley; it is Pashmeena, a wool much in fashion at one time for its fineness of texture. The wool is obtained *only from the underbelly of a specific mountain goat unlike the Cashmere which is usually thicker and can be from any regular mountian goat. oftroy will certainly know more on this. The shahtoosh wool comes from a endangered goat (?antelope) called the Chiru. The poor thing has been mercilessly slaughtered for its wool and all for the sake of stupid human indulgence.
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I offered you offence but you didn't take it.You're right. I don't find you offensive. [Maybe because I don't know who "Ron Obvious" is. Actually, I don't mind being "obvious" ... as long as I'm obviously right. ] Enjoy your sense of humor. Goooo Musick.
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>I don't know who "Ron Obvious" is..
harrumph®; well, I never! you've obviously not been paying close attention over these two years.
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you've obviously not been paying close attentionYou were not "Obvious" to me before.
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For those following this soap opera, moss here has also posted as wordminstrel, plutarch (my favorite! a "securities trader in Vancouver"), semperon and vbq. Maybe other sock puppets, too, these are the ones that were obvious to me. You'll notice the link to the Omegatist thread has three of his personae prolonging a silly quid-pro-quo; yes, actually "talking" to each other.
So, while I appreciate your link, dody, and have been writing and talking about polarization in chat rooms & message boards for a long time, I feel that when you've got a group that comfortably discuss an array of topics vis-a-vis one (well, there have been a couple of others, but this one is classic) who comes in as any of half a dozen different screen names (many times just to stir things up), you gotta figure the playing field isn't exactly level.
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you gotta figure the playing field isn't exactly levelOh, I think the playing field is pretty level, AnnaS. Faldage just wore me out and now it looks like your shift. All those buried sock puppets can't "stir it up" half as much as one determined tag team.
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I appreciate your link, dody, and have been writing and talking about polarization...
oi know miss, tis from you i learned all that i know, (and Jackie, for twas her link originally, many moons ago)
sorry for butting in, I left out of it for soooo long though, I thought my head was going to pop if I didn't say something, hey,[lightbulb-e] is there a word for that d'you reckon?
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A pashmina is also a very wide scarf made from that wool? It is worn over a coat - like a shawl - but it is a long rectangle instead of the triangle of a shawl. I know it was very popular last winter.
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Maybe other sock puppets tooMoss is going to put a sock in this sock puppet, for now, AnnaS. But I might come back as a "Stranger" in typically innocent and respectful fashion, and, I think it goes without saying, if there is any unprovoked Falduggery directed my way, we shall pick up, Faldage and I, where we left off. [If the apprehension of that benefits some other innocent "Stranger" in the meantime, so much the better. ]
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