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#112672 09/25/2003 3:16 PM
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Hi all

Did a quick search and didn't find anything that related to this, so thought I'd ask.

Is there a consensus, or pattern of opinion on the pronunciation of 'proven'.

I have a friend who favours "proov'n". I favour "prove'n". My dictionary (albeit only Encarta), lists both.

Any opinions?

cheer

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#112673 09/25/2003 3:37 PM
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how do you pronounce 'prove' then?


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I favour "prove'n". (Mmm, it is SO nice to have you posting again!!! <GRIN>) Do you mean that the o has the same sound as in oh? Oh, no! It's oo. As in coo.


#112675 09/25/2003 5:50 PM
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'Prove', the word = proov.

But in "prove'n", the sound was meant to rhyme with 'grove'. Apologies for the ambiguity.


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Proovn, definitely proovn.


#112677 09/25/2003 7:53 PM
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Sorry, shanks, but it's definitely proovn up here too. If I here p-roe-vn, I think of Ole Blighted, especially public school twits.


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But in "prove'n", the sound was meant to rhyme with 'grove'.

Has anyone looked this up?


#112679 09/25/2003 10:28 PM
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Pronunciation: prüv
Inflected Form(s): proved; proved \-vd\; or prov·en \-vn\;

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IOW, the US standard for inflected forms just adds an unstressed syllable to proov.


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Great to hear you're back, Shanks - welcome, mate.

Definitely /proov'n/ for me, too, with a vague feeling of recognition in what my updownside bro said about the crust of the blighted uppers... but we allus knew you were secretly a nob ;)


#112681 09/26/2003 1:52 AM
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>but we allus knew you were secretly a nob ;)


Don't you mean nabob? Or should he bring his Mum by?


#112682 09/26/2003 8:39 AM
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So there go my chances of impressing hoi polloi with my working class cred. Damn you Billy Bragg for giving me hope!

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In Scottish law there is a three verdict system; 'guilty', 'not guilty' and 'not proven'. In this case the word always seems to be pronounced as proven, not as prooven.

In case of interest, here is a link:

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/faq/notprov.asp


#112684 09/27/2003 9:15 PM
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Well, I never had a public school eddication, but I've always pronounced it as prov/n. My better half, the one with the law degree, disagrees with me and agrees with the pruv/n school. So there's nothing new there, then.

Oh, and welcome back, Shanks. It's been a long time since I saw a post from you.



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