Mav, i know you posted hours before me, but honest, you post wasn't there when i first opened the page, (not now, earlier)

this time, i raced pasted your post--and only when i was looking again did i notice the number of posts had jumped... so in this case, you really were wearing a mantle of invisiblity! (and not being chopped liver!) Please let me remove it.. (and thanks! i knew there were some sort of things for climbing, that sounded like cramp(on)(oons)cramp somethings!
Oh, that i had a figure like Demi, i'd have you as my Ashton!


my other obsession