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Look what's in the opening paragraph in Jo's link
(I added the bold):
...the time when Welsh culture was loosing its distinctive characteristics...
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Hey Max,
Canadian English equates "grill" with "fry" on as the Americans sometimes call it, the griddle or "grill" is used to describe a "Charcoal Broiler" or BBQ. "Broil" usually is used to descibe cooking either over an open flame or under it.
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>She and all her family before her, made a waffles but they eat them as snacks, not breakfast food.
I'll concede on waffles being Belgian then.
Myself, I'll stick with Belgian chocolate - heavenly!
I wonder where the idea of pancakes and waffles for breakfast originated? The Dutch seem to like pancakes and Eastern Europeans are fond of blini.
I posted a while ago that I had heard that breakfast was important when people were travelling on the wagon train to the West. The fires were still going from the night before, so it was the best time to cook a hot meal, pancakes were quick, easy and filling.
One of my American friends was amused when she met some elderly American ladies in a tour group in Paris. One of them turned to her and said "Do you know, they gave us bread for breakfast!"
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I think UK and NZ English are at one on this - "broil" = "grill"
Oh no they're not, me old son!
I've never heard other UK people use the word "broil" - and if they did, they would probably consider it closer to "boil" than "grill", just because of the sound.
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I think the only place you would hear it here would be in an American hamburger place. They talk about char-broiled burgers and I'm sure most people here haven't a clue what they mean. I'd always guessed that it was some kind of charcoal grill, which sounds like it is true.
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'broiled' is supposed to be healthier than 'fried' (both are done on one type of 'grill' or another in a restaurant).
broiling involves letting the grease drip through a grated grill or pan -- less grease with your meat; on a flat grill, you fry the meat in the grease. BBQing is a type of broiling/grilling.
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>on a flat grill, you fry the meat in the grease
The problem is that we would never fry on a grill. We fry in a frying pan. We grill under a grill (a grill has a flame or electric element above the grill pan which slides underneath). The only place we might grill with the flame underneath is a on a barbecue but we'd probably call that barbecuing, not grilling.
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what do you call an "industrial grade" frying grill -- restaurants don't all fry in pans, do they?
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I don't know. I'll find out.
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The Canadian recipe books I have refer to broil as putting a piece of meat on the top rack in the oven and turning on the top element only. With red/white meats, this is often done in a two-tier dish to let the fat drip off. With fish (which is usually leaner) it is done in a regular dish.
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