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#110382 09/10/2003 3:27 AM
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>>Re: Paul Jaisini
Posted by Arthur on 7/14/03

On 7/12/03, Maggie Rick wrote:
> I do not think poetry has lost its value. I think that Sydney has.
> Poetry is used today to different things than it was used for at
> the time Sydney was writing. I know that it holds great importance
> for many people, but the American Heritage text book is not written
> in verse, as it very well may have been written then.


I have read this before. Who are you and why have you posted about
Jaisini all over the Internet? <<

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from me:


H.G. Wells wrote a novel with an invisible character as the protagonist once...does that count?

Does Casper the Friendly Ghost count as invisible cartoon art?

If a painting is hung in the land of the blind, is that invisible art?

If music is played in the land of the deaf, is that invisible art?

If somewone writes a word, a poem, a play, or a book that no one ever reads, is that invisible art?

If Ralph Kramden suddenly can't see his buddy, Norton, is that invisible Art?

If you create invisibility is your creativity a vaccum like a Black Hole?

And if somebody *claims* to see your invisible art...who's the liar?

And is art of the invisible kind more or less transparent in say, New Zealand, than it is in, oh, Canada?

I really want to know the answers to these questions. My earnestness is indivisible....I hope.









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Please review the new book at
http://www.lulu.com/Paul-Jaisini

that would answer your questions.

Thank you for your interest in art of Paul Jaisini,

Warm regards from New York City,
Yustas

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#110384 09/10/2003 12:33 PM
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have your discussion considered for the publication

We'll bring it up for consideration by the AWAD Society Internecine Forum

As if!


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Internecine

*Usually* invisible.


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I love your questions, WO'N, and esp. If you create invisibility is your creativity a vaccum like a Black Hole?

And if somebody *claims* to see your invisible art...who's the liar?


In the latter question, neither person necessarily has to be a liar. I had an internet friend who "created" his house for me in words so well that I could "see" it in my mind.


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I'll take it up with my agent. Meanwhile, don't publish any of my thoughts, gliding time, unless you want a big-ass lawsuit.


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http://www.lulu.com/Paul-Jaisinik.

There will be a series of books than include comments and discussions. You can see it for yourself by previewing the book at the above link. If you want your discussion to be a part of the upcoming book just let me know.

Yustas

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I've finally figured this out: y k-g is shorthand for "yust kidding".


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I am not kidding:
Just review the current book installment and you will see that comments from Internet are included. There will be a series of books with comments related to the subject, such as this particular discussion included. I would need to know if the participants of discussion want to be included.

Yustas Kotz-Gottlieb
Warm regards from New York

http://www.lulu.com/Paul-Jaisini

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What's our cut?


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I would need to know if the participants of discussion want to be included.

NO aka NEIN


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>clicked the link<

and received this:

>The page you have requested cannot be found.
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

Please try the following:

If you typed the page address in the Address/Location bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.
Open the www.lulu.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
Click the Back button to try another link. <

Hmmm...the plot thickens...or shall we say, invisibilizes more...





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http://www.lulu.com/Paul-Jaisini

works fine

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Worked OK for me, Juan. Maybe you copied a bit too much when you pasted? You don't have any trailing spaces or CR-LFs, do you?


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Aw, I bet anybody could see a Drunken Santa in an invisible painting.

I, for one, saw the emperor's new clothes, you know.


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I would need to know if the participants of discussion want to be included.
Absolutely not, never, under any circumstances.


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Worked OK for me, Juan.

Oooo...you traitor, you! [with my best Michaeline O'Flynn accent-e]


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Put me down as a very visible NO

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very visible

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You know, Mr. Yustas, you may be the nicest person in the world and you may have written the best book in the world, but I still have to say that I resent your popping up here and making posts about things that make no sense, with no explanation whatsoever.
It is only with great (and resented) effort that my feeble mind has finally been able to put together some sort of reason behind this, and it goes: "Hello, my name is yustas kotz-gottlieb, and I have a web site about a supposed artist that includes an "interview" with this "artist" who "says" things like "-When a man is awake, a man is asleep; everything encloses. And when you enclose your line you create the reality in which the man truly exists not knowing that he is entrapped in a secluded world of his own doing which he cannot escape." Which I know makes no sense, because I have written a book about all of his paintings that don't exist, hoping that people will realize it's all in fun and buy my book."
Had your initial post said something along the lines of 'hey, if any of you would like to have a little fun, try reading my site', I would have been a lot happier.


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Dear Bingley:
If you don't want to have your comments included please feel free to leave a note and your comment will be removed.
Thank you for the prompt attention to this matter.

http://www.lulu.com/Paul-Jaisini.

There will be a series of books than include comments and discussions. You can see it for yourself by previewing the book at the above link. If you want your discussion to be a part of the upcoming book just let me know.

Yustas


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If you don't want to have your comments included please feel free to leave a note and your comment will be removed.


The default answer is NO. If you do not receive explicit permission you cannot print. We are not required to tell you it's not OK.


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Faldage, are you a webmaster? I am trying to figure out if you give response for the rest of the members who gave replies on art of Jaisini?


Thank you for clearing that out.

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I'm just saying that using another person's writings without explicit permission is not acceptable publishing procedure.


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gleitzeit, many of us have replied NO. Please take NO as the answer unless someone explicitly tells you YES. Which I sincerely doubt. Please read Jackie's post above.

... this is a board for people to post comments abut words and language, make jokes, make friends. The idea of someone coming here for particular yet poorly-stated interests, gathering comments and then "publishing" them, goes against my idea of ethics.


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Dear Gleitzeit

I have already told you publicly that I DO NOT WISH TO BE INCLUDED IN YOUR BOOKS. REMOVING ME IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, NOT MINE.

Quite apart from anything else, the number of hits a site gets can be a valuable commodity. Why should I boost the value of something I have no conceivable interest in?

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This is non-for-profit mission to bring high art Gleitzeit of Paul Jaisini closer to people.
Thank you for your input.

Warm regards from New York City!

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I still haven't seen any art.
or read any.
or felt any.

I sang some this week, but it had nothing to do with Santa.



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Dear gleitzeit,

The price of my questionaire post is $2,500 per question blurb. And I need that in a written contract since that's my work and I hold the copyright, and you don't have my permission to print it without stated compensation (a portion of which I would donate to Anu since wordsmith is *his* site). Those are the terms, non-negotiable. That's a total of $25,000 by my calculation.


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Mr. Yustas, I owe you an apology. I see that you did post an explanation: L.C.McCreshly Publications is seeking submissions for their upcoming book entitled: Jaisini Gleitzeit Supermodernity: New age American art.
What is accepted for submission to be included in the book:
Literary essays (1,000-3,000 words) for associative writing on invisible paintings.
The best art is art of fantasy; literary exploration of visual dimension is a new a vehicle but expresses so much more, contemporary directions of aesthetic development in art and art receptors, viewers who belong to the art tradition and never before had a chance to express their opinion on art. This is your opportunity to be a part of a new art and express your understanding of future of fine art. You can also submit controversial views and any argument to the leading idea of non-visibility of new art.
HOW to submit:
In the body of an e-mail. No attachments.

http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=lookingfor&Number=110805 In my defense, I will say that I did not make the connection between the post I just quoted from and the one that appeared here; and frankly, the thread title still makes no sense to me whatsoever (yes, I did read a couple of sentences under the "painting" title on your site). Nevertheless, I am sorry that I accused you of not offering an explanation when you had.
But -- do NOT use my comments in your book! Our comments were to each other, here on this site. They were not intended to be submissions to you, and in fact they do not meet the criteria you outlined above.



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Do not print any comments I have made at wordsmith.org. Have I made myself clear?


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I haven't *given you any input, gleitzeit. (yet)

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You may not reproduce in print or any other manner any of the comments I have made here at wordsmith.org.

("non-for-profit mission" and "high art" my ass...)


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