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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread The urge to glurge #109130 08/02/2003 11:27 AM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui As a subscriber to the snopes.com mailimh-list, I have been introduced to an interesting new word - glurge. The definition is here, http://snurl.com/1y9a, and here is a specimen I received in an email around the 4th of July, http://snurl.com/1y99. At the time, I thought it merely laughably irrelevant to a K1W1, especially its exhortation to remember what "The 4th" is all about, but now I found out it's not only corny, but shonky, along with a whole lot of similar twee drivel. noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: The urge to glurge #109131 08/02/2003 11:58 AM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui Since it is dedicated to combatting the misuse of language, I've decided to add Snopes to my References page, and am still keen on recommendations for sites on different flavours of English. noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: The urge to glurge #109132 08/02/2003 2:09 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 hah - loved the reductio ad glurgum! I haven't seen anyone from Seth Efrica talking up links here or ilswhir - since I've been getting interested in SAE recently, I can look up a page of possible links if you're interested. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: The urge to glurge #109133 08/02/2003 3:37 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Max, here's some more stuff. American Dialect Society's Words of the Year (1990-2002): http://www.americandialect.org/woty.html Slang in different towns (including Johannesburg!): http://slanguage.com/* ~~~ *it's fairly ad-ridden, unfortunately Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: Seth Efrican links #109134 08/02/2003 4:31 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 (no, it's not Ernie Els' home page!) World languages maps: http://www.ethnologue.com/country_index.asp Article on development of SAE variety: http://www.ru.ac.za/affiliates/dsae/MAVEN.HTML Guide to SAE vocabulary variants: http://www.biltongbox.com/ Jawelnofine This is another conversation fallback word. Derived from the four words "yes", "well", "no" (q.v.) and "fine", it means roughly "how about that." If your bank manager tells you your account is overdrawn, you can say with confidence: "Jawelnofine." Guide to SAE pronunciation with samples: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/accent.htm Woozer (WUESA = White Urban English-Speaking South African) Includes interesting variants comparing SA perception of Oz and RP English pronunciation! Black SAE variant: http://www.und.ac.za/und/ling/archive/wade-03.html “That make the meaning to be different than other countries.” Article on prestige of language variants in SA: http://www.und.ac.za/und/ling/archive/sari-01.html “Another finding of the study is that the prestige of a variety of English derives from its social functions, that is, the people and associations with which it is linked, rather than its structural properties. The way we speak counts for a great deal and so does the way we hear others speak. Although no dialect is better or worse than any other, the recent introduction of African ‘voices’ on SAfm aroused a great deal of passion from the self-appointed guardians of the ‘purity of the language’. If it was not the mangled grammar it was the distorted pronunciation.” Interesting bibliography search tool: http://www.infography.com/content/804539251050.html (also applicable to language topics other than SAE) Debate on perceived ‘mangling’ of SAE: http://m1.mny.co.za/C22569E30058060A/$All/52D4180B9D75C3F2C2256C54002A1054?OpenDocument Dictionary: the real McCoy is the paper thang from OUP: http://www.oup.com/isbn/0-19-863153-7?view=za Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: Seth Efrican links #109135 08/02/2003 7:45 PM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui Thanks, mav. There are some very good links there, on what is fast becoming Zild's 2nd English. noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: The urge to glurge #109136 08/02/2003 7:49 PM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui Thanks so much ASp. With the exception of the Oz links, I had entirely overlooked the whole field of substandard English. I appreciate your filling the gap for me. noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: substandard English #109137 08/02/2003 8:09 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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