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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 Re: Transcribe/transliterate #10867 01/09/2001 12:47 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 Transcribe = render the actual pronunciation of. Yet in Paleography, when one is asked to "transcribe" a document the expectation is that you will render, in modern orthgraphy, the exact way that the document is written, with all abbrev.s, misppelins, contract'ns and peculiarities. I am almost certain that the next step - rendering it into understandable English - is known as "transliteration." Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: Transcribe/transliterate #10868 01/10/2001 4:11 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta If you're rendering a manuscript into modern orthography, how can you preserve all its peculiarities? How do you draw the line between a mis-spelling and a correct one in times when spelling was more -- creative, shall we say? Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: Transcribe/transliterate #10869 01/10/2001 1:32 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 The only peculiarities that you may iron out are those of actual letter formation. My apologies for using entirely the wrong word - it ain't orthography and I can't for the life of me think what the right one is (product of advancing years and receding levels in the glass of worthington) - what I mean is the shape of the letters, which has changed quite dramatically over the past 250 years. Indeed at least one letter has disappeared completely - thorn - which looked like a "Y" and stood for the "th" sound. This is, of course the origin of "Ye Olde Tea Shoppe", which really and truly should be pronounced "THe Olde - - ." But that would take away some of the fun for tourists, and it is an easily recognised icon for something that relies on our "heritage" (ugh!!! ) for its marketing strategy. So lets keep the "wiy" sound for their sakes. I might even get some research funding out of it! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: Writing phonetically #10870 01/10/2001 2:24 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 819 Portland,Oregon, USA Geoff old hand Geoff old hand Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 819 Portland,Oregon, USA Wrote Max Q: Thanks, of troy. I had long known of "uisge" and its parallel in Scandanavian, but I did not know that aquavit and vodka were both derived from "uisge" Those drunken Celts and Picts sure got around! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not too surprising when one considers that the Russ (from which Russia) were a Nordic tribe which plied the Varangean "highway" of ancient times. They Pict fertile ground for becomming the Celt of the earth, they did. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: Writing phonetically #10871 01/10/2001 5:40 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 3,467 Marion NC TEd Remington Carpal Tunnel TEd Remington Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 3,467 Marion NC > They Pict fertile ground for becomming the Celt of the earth, they did. 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