re: If memory serves it dates back to about 1645. Orient as a verb dates to about ten years earlier. Again, if memory serves.

Gee you are an old coot faldage! but you wear your age well, i woodna guess'd you to be much more than 55 or 60.. but if you remember 1600's, well, hell, i am impressed!
what's the your secret to longevity? i hope you share it at lest with your lovely wife!


my other obsession