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#106916 07/03/2003 4:18 AM
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Just had to ask that, too, since that's how my bleary-eyed self first read your thread starter. Will now go and read your link, tsuwm...


#106918 07/03/2003 12:01 PM
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err. uhm. huh?



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#106919 07/03/2003 12:24 PM
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Certainly an uncommon word, glister--but then,
this article seems to be in the "offbeat" section...
After checking Atomica,
glis·ter (glĭs'tər) 
intr.v., -tered, -ter·ing, -ters.
To glisten.

n.
Glitter; brilliance.

[Middle English glisteren, probably from
Middle Dutch glinsteren or
Middle Low German glisteren.]


I thought I had them on that intransitive thing,
but no. Hmm--does the t disappear when glister
is spoken, like it does in glisten?

I'm not finding lingot; is it a typo?
But surely glister wouldn't be one--it's
in the headline!

I checked my Chambers (hi, Jo! ) dict.--
where lingot would be if it were there, is
lingua, the sole def. of which is:
"n(anat) the tongue; a tonguelike structure".





#106920 07/03/2003 12:37 PM
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lingot; is it a typo?
The OED lists lingot as a synonym of ingot. French has only lingot for those coveted objects. And glistening ingot does sound ugly.


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And glistening ingot does sound ugly.

ooh, no, I like it. it's got a great rhythm and accent pattern. say it several times. just rolls off the tongue...





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#106922 07/03/2003 2:22 PM
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Oh, how very funny. I've just checked back in to see what any hubbub might be about the listering lingots and finally read the copper-toned article--to find that glistering lingots were, in fact, glistening ingots as I'd first misread. How curious and funny.

I've never read lingot knowingly--and it appears to be a well-known word--is it?--when I would have expected ingot to be the more usual. Was the writer of the article going for the poetic?

Now about glistening ingots. I do agree with et' that it isn't an 'ugly' sound. And et' suggested that we should say glinstening ingots several time to become more at home with it.

Try that. Yes.

But then trying glistening lingots several times quickly (for a challenge). That el stuffed in does call for a rather nimble tongue.


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"One of the most frequently misquoted phrases. The original phrase is "All that GLISTERS is not gold" and comes from Shakespeare's Merchant Of Venice. The majority of people now misuse it, replacing the archaic verb glister with the much more understandable glitter, and since the two mean near enough the same thing, one can see why.

The phrase simply means that just because something may look valuable, desirable or attractive, it does NOT mean that it definitely will be worth having once you discover its true nature. So basically, don't rely on the superficial."




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ATTN: Jackie, put a CR in your etymology, you've gone wide (and after all my snurl pains)!




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And thanks, dxb, for that. Fault noted and future corrections to be taken.


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Okay, tsuwm, I don't know what a CR is, and my screen wasn't wide, but I went back and just shortened every line. HTH'd.


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CR=carriage return, you know, like on one of them old typewriter thingys...





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Since there ain't no carriage, how about Line Feed?


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I see this piece comes from Agence France-Presse (pardon my French). Could be the story was translated by an erudite NSE* who didn't go to journalism school but instead, had a good, well-rounded liberal arts education. (Would you like fries with that?)

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*native speaker of English


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dude, you mean, like, they were throwing us some beans?

erudage... cool.



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a good, well-rounded liberal arts education. (Would you like fries with that?)




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#106933 07/04/2003 12:59 PM
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how about Line Feed

Because Line Feed 
the CR, too. just moves you down one line; you need



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