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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 Weed #105393 06/11/03 05:38 PM Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 M maahey OP addict OP maahey addict M Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 Is it true, that 'weed' is rooted in 'woad'? Both Weeds and Woad disperse easily and grow prolifically in most environments. This apart, the one is totally unwanted whilst, the other is/?was a valued cash crop. And if true, what were weeds called before depleting markets made woad a nuisance? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105394 06/11/03 06:08 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 AHD4 doesn't take them back any farther than OE, but Weed (the undesired plant) is from weod: http://www.bartleby.com/61/82/W0078200.html Woad (the dye producing plant) is from wad http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/W0197900.html And, as a special bonus, weed (the clothing worn while mourning, as in "widow's weeds") is from wæd http://www.bartleby.com/61/83/W0078300.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105395 06/11/03 09:34 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Not according to Online Etymology Dictionary http://www.etymonline.com/w3etym.htm Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105396 06/11/03 11:36 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Online Etymological agrees that they are unrelated and does carry them back. The mourning clothes version of weed to the PIE *wedh-, extended form of *au-, to weave. The other two are from different Proto-Germanic words. http://www.etymonline.com/w1etym.htm Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105397 06/12/03 06:08 AM Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 M maahey OP addict OP maahey addict M Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 Thanks Faldage and wwh, for the clarification. So, it appears my source had it wrong. Still, we must agree that the two words sound remarkably alike, eh? On a somewhat related note, how did chromium (the steely, shiny, totally 'colourless' metal that men somehow seem to bond with, especially if it is combined with glass and horror of horrors!, wood!!!..ugh ), get its name? Everthing else, that I can think of, with chromos as the root, is colourful. This one seems like an oxymoronic *word, going by appearances at least... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105398 06/12/03 06:44 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta B Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta The AHD etymology says for chrome: French, from Greek khroma, color (from the brilliant colors of chromium compounds). http://www.bartleby.com/61/74/C0337400.html Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105399 06/12/03 12:00 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 R RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah R Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Rossall/song_wtu.htm This might amuse you, concerning woad. sing it to the tune of "Men of Harlech." Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105400 06/14/03 10:14 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Capfka Pooh-Bah Capfka Pooh-Bah Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok I was afraid that it was what it was before I clicked onthe link ... I think I learned it forty years ago at Boy Scouts. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105401 06/16/03 04:56 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,661 Chicago musick Carpal Tunnel musick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,661 Chicago "Men of Harlech." Would we be singing about Welsh "Harlequin's"? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Weed/woad/weed #105402 06/17/03 05:58 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Capfka Pooh-Bah Capfka Pooh-Bah Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok No. Blue-painted English. 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