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#10518 11/29/00 02:29 PM
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>Check out two : Saving Ned Devine and Saving Grace.

I know this breaks up the synergy somewhat, but in the interest of Saving folks some searching, the former should actually be 'Waking Ned Devine' (still a Great flim).


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I sit bleary-eyed and chastened. Saving Ned Devine it is.
Anyone have light-hearted suggestions? I've had my fill of movies-with-a-message. Who was it said "If you want to send a message call Western Union?" He never heard of this super group, that's fer shure.
For anyone who likes mystery stories and puns, I just found the author Paul Engleman who wrote "The Man With My Name" and "The Man With My Cat" featuring the hero Phil Moony. Phil is Phull of puns in two languages (US and Italian) You will get the Phull joke if you read the book. Christmas comes!
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Wow asks: "Anyone have light-hearted suggestions?"

And the Vicar, always ready to assist, recommends Penélope Cruz in "Woman on Top" -- a fairy tale, sweet, funny, with no particular message and great, really great Brazillian music.


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>>...should actually be "Waking Ned Devine"
>I sit bleary-eyed and chastened. Saving Ned Devine it is.

::smacking forehead with open palm:: now you're trying to make *me bleary-eyed!


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Fr. Steve

Back to your original question.

A compositor is a type setter; he or she used a composing stick, which has a capacity to hold one line of type. The good compositors never took their eyes off the copy, and their grabbing hands unerringly found the correct compartment and inserted the type without looking at it. The end of the type opposite the letter had a little hook or ell-shape on it so the compositor could set it into the stick without looking at it.

But how does that become compositing (and what IS compositing.)

This URL http://graphics.stanford.edu/courses/cs248-95/comp/comp.html leads you to a set of lecture notes on compositing. Much if it's beyond my ken, but there is a definition of digital compositing, and it's apparently a computer graphics term.

Compositing appears likely to me to be a back-formation from compositor.





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Tswum :
Smacking forehead, rattling brains, sound causes Waking! Waking! Waking! That's what I've got to do and stop wording late at night. Honest to heaven I actually previewed and read that post. Arrrgggghhhhh!
Father Steve : Thanks for the suggestion. Title a bit off-putting but I will trust the Vicar.
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This thread began with a question about the use of the word "compositing" in film credits. From there, without answering the question, the thread veered through some thoughts about British politics, trade unionism, burglary (and interesting transition from unionism to burlgary), the importance of reading the credits as they scroll by at the end of the movie, out-takes from movies, to recommendations of movies fit for adults.

Then came the saviour: TEd. He referred us to a website where the class notes for a study of electronic editing are posted, which reveals the following:

"Compositing: A method for combining two or more images in a way that approximates the intervisibility of the scenes that gave rise to those images. Ideally, the combined image looks exactly like the image that would have arisen fom combining the scenes."

I rather thought this had something to do with arranging the little white letters in the credits; I was quite wrong. I have learned a new thing, thanks to TEd's willingness to return to the original question.

[I'm also trying to think of a way to use "intervisibility" in conversation.)





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you could work this easily into a surveying conversation. conventional surveying requires intervisible (mutually visible) surveying stations; GPS methods do not require intervisibility.


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I've been watching this thread with interest as a tradesman printer from, well let us say many years ago. The trade has just about vanished, "thanks" to computers. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, I sometimes say.

The word "compositing" was never, ever used in the trade (at least here in NZ). You "made up" or "composed" pages, you didn't "composite" them. The chief sub-editor of the newspaper I worked for would be spinning in his grave if he had ever heard such an abomination.

The computer "industry" has a lot to answer for, not least the new, Germanic approach to linguistic usage and word formation. And my wife has just come into the room, so I guess we're now intervisible ...



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I don't know what a compositor does but I suspect that if someone were credited as a composer the average movie goer would think that the person was involved in the creation of the music. This is probably not what a compositor does so to call a compositor a composer would be misleading at best.

BTW, I ran this through the spell checker; it wanted to make compositor into compost and when I fumble-fingered goer to gpoer it wanted to make that grab.


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