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#104336 05/28/2003 12:57 PM
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From the Bible, First Corinthians:
" 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal."


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Is that good or bad?


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Dear Faldage: Are you so lacking in charity?


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Nemmine, Dr Bill, I finally dug my way through the creaky, tortured syntax. What's that from, King Jamie's hack job?


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Can't tell which version the dull dedicated divine I found on Internet used. Recent enough KJ version probable.

Take a throat lozenge, and get the brass out of your voice.


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But the brass section is the most mellifluous section. Who can resist the rich, warm tones of the French horn, the commanding sound of the trumpet, the stirring sonority of the trombone, the authoritative resonance of the tuba?


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Canadian might not take so kindly to the expression.


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The charity wou have for the horns takes their brass away.
Incidentally, take a look at etymology of "charity".
The last line of etymology in my dictionary is "WHORE"

Whoa! Back! how'd that get in there?


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Exactly the point. It doesn't matter how mellifluous your tone or how good your speech is , if you don't act with love (charity in the KJ version) it is just nice sounding noise. It doesn't have meaning.


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Who can resist the rich, warm tones of the French horn

Wrong thread. Try again!


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Wrong thread

Oh, all right. pendantic nit-picker Freedom horn. There is that better?


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pendantic?? [cross-threading]


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" And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these [is] charity."


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"WHORE"
… how'd that get in there?


Through Germanic *horaz (feminine *horon-), "one who desires", adulterer; from PIE ka- to like, desire.


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Faldage, it's just a bunch of words. Would you please write a, say, 500-word essay on the relationship between whore and charity? I will read with great interest, I promise you.

tsuwm, you are pendantically sycophantically and subtly rantingly working against truly innnocently included n's.

Let's see. What other n's could we add here? Wicked penderast? Organ pendals? Pendophiles? Oh, and for the Rich Elite, don't want to forget those Pendicures?


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>innnocently included n's.

that's as may be, but what about lavacious?? [cross-thread]

it's interesting to see that (other than relating to lava flows) this seems to be a not uncommon "typo" for lascivious. what's up with that?


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Dear WW: For a connection between charity and whore,
I remember an interview given by a famous Boston Madam (not the socialite type). When asked why so many girls became her employees, she grew philosophical. "There comes a time in many a girl's life when she realizes she has given away a million dollars."


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Lavaciousness. Isn't that a compulsive/obsessive disorder involving bathing?


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Through Germanic *horaz (feminine *horon-), "one who desires",

So is that where horny comes from? I always thought it was a little more, um, physically descriptive.


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I'm remembering a line from the movie version of "Oliver"; when Bill Sykes returns after killing Nancy, he pleads with Fagin, "brass, give me brass, money"



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yes, eta, good brass is an old brittish slang term for cash money (vs. paper money) it was used up till the 1950's (at least in Dublin) and until the 1930'sin UK -if books/shows like "All Creatures Great and Small" are to counted-- (the expression is used in both the book and TV series made from the books)

aside from 'getting the brass ring', and plumbers (my father in law used to remind us we had good brass pipes, not copper ones!) i don't think brass is much used as complimentary thing.. even brass as a term for naval officers was used to mock their uniforms with brass buttons..



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