Good luck to puir wee Jonathan. Even his very substantial mass will, I fear, be insufficient to quash the persistent little bugger. Bugger is not only the first word I ever said, it is absolutely entrenched in Kiwi kulcha, all the more so thanks to Toyota. I am not given to vulgar speech, but even to me, bugger is OK - I recently told a member here that I know bugger all about bugger all. I guess that's why I'm not an MP.