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#102489 05/06/2003 6:25 PM
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And just pour encourager les autres, here's another one:

Snippery, snappery,
Jackie of Louisville
Gutter policewoman
Extraordinaire;

Nagging here, niggling there,
Respectability!
Gutters were beckoning,
Most strange affair!



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Gen'ral George Washington he-he
crossed river Delaware
Christmas night seventeen
seventy six

Hessians rested from
overindulgences
George had not had such a
death free conflict.


#102491 05/06/2003 10:16 PM
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Lapidus Napidus
David of Bethlehem
Gazed at the giant who
Razzed with delight:

“Send out your best man to
End the hostility!”
Dave took his slingshot and
Ended the fight.



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Hoggetty, moggetty,
Capfka of Kiwiland,
Thoroughly threatening
Some dire fate;

He has his own little
Idiosyncrasy:
Sheep from the first should all
'Cap'itulate.


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This interests me greatly, so I've copy-and-pasted the "roolz" and the ur-sample, and printed them out. I hope to compose an entry soon!


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OK. Two hours of hard slog produced this:

Snippety-snappety,
Jennifer Aniston's
Famous for "Friends," and for
Wedding Brad Pitt.
But, for the majors in
Astrotrichology,
Jennifer's hairdo is
Her greatest hit.

(A postscript:
I didn't see Capfka's eerily similar "snippery snappery" till just now, when paging through the thread again. Coincidence! Just in case this is a faux pas, though, I ask Capfka to remember the utterance of the rookie stock clerk, who, hefting heavy boxes in his arms, enviously watched the skilled men moving stock with trim machines. "To bear is human," sighed the rookie, "but to forklift, divine!")



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nice slog, ebsa! though I would have used hippity hoppity...





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Funny, I thought of that, but passed it over as being (a) already much in use, and (b) not tied in to my theme; "snippety-snappety" came to me, and related to haircutters, as well as, perhaps, the "snippiness" of the wisecracking "Friends" gal characters.


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well, I figured since it was about hare...





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OK. Blinking my eyes and returning from a long hibernation:

[Musical prodigy] [or some Argentinian doggerel]
Daniel Barenboim
played the piano
and married Du Pre

She played the cello with
impetuosity;
playing together
they took breath away.


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paulb!!!!!! [throwing my arms around you and planting a big one e] Who can care about Daniel and Du Pre? You're back, you're back, you're back!!!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!


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Plinkety Plunkety
Sergei Rachmaninoff:
Russian composer
Deserving of praise;

He, cosmopolitan,
Twentieth-century;
Yet a "Romantic" in
Form and in phrase.


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Dear tsuwm: Your first line reminded me of something I read a very long time ago. A woman woke up in the middle of the night feeling she had discovered a very profound tr;uth, and wrote it down. In the morning, she discovered that she had written:
"Hogamus, Higamus, Men Are Polygamous
Higamus, Hogamus, Women Monogamous"




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[Musical prodigy] [or some Argentinian doggerel]

Whaddaya know! An audience participation double dactyl!


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(First, a note to etaoin: OK, a hair/hare pun! I was slow on the uptake!)

Hey-nonny-nunnery,
Emily Dickinson
Hid, with her oeuvre, from the
Harsh light of day.
Nowadays, we'd call it
Agoraphobia,
Social anxiety --
"Shy" is passe.


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w'afe.. ask Faldage about proper scanning--I'm afraid I can't help you.
; )


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Dear tsuwm:
Please specify where I departed from proper scanning vis-a-vis the following rules, which you posted:

1. a dactyl is three syllables, with the stress on the first,; see no. 4.
2. Two stanzas, each comprising three lines of dactylic dimeter followed by a line with a dactyl and a single accent..
3. The first line of the first stanza is repetitive nonsense. (e.g., Jiggery Pokery, Higgledy Piggledy, etc.)
4. so it goes
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DEE

DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
NONconfronTAtional
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DEE


Thanks!


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I was willing to let it go, it being fairly minor, but, this is how I see it:

Hey-nonny-nunnery,
OK
Emily Dickinson
OK
Hid, with her oeuvre, from the
Dah duh duh DAH d' duh duh
Harsh light of day.
OK

Nowadays, we'd call it
DAH duh duh duh DAH duh
Agoraphobia,
OK
Social anxiety --
OK
"Shy" is passe.
OK

I'd say the departures are relatively minor and the first one might depend on how one pronounces oeuvre, OOV or OOV 'r (that'd be a gargled French r). The second one could pass if the intent is to stress that *We'd call it whatever (as opposed to someone else calling it whatever) rather than we'd call it agoraphobia rather than calling it something else.

On second thoughts:

Nowadays, we'd call it
DAH duh duh duh dah duh

That call is just a secondary stress.

But as I said this is all so minor I wouldn't have said anything except tsuwm invoked my name. I think he's mad at me because I agreed with him about the suspect etymology of sneeze.

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plugging into the formula we have:

1..
2..
3.HID, with her OEUVRE, from the
4.HARSH light of DAY.

5.NOWadays, WE'D call it
6.AgoraPHObia,
7.SOcial anXIety --
8."SHY" is pasSE.

as I said, I'm no expert on scanning but line 5 would seem to want "NOWadays we'd CALL it"

maybe it would work as something like this
THESE days we'd NAME it as

also, I have difficulty saying 'oeuvre' as one sylLAble..


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Or, if you don't use Nowadays you could say:
Nowdays we'd SAY it was


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Good job, websafe! I thought of Emily Dickinson yesterday and couldn't think of anything to say about her. (Yeah, in my free time, you know.)

Welcome to the Board!


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I was willing to let it go, it being fairly minor, but, this is how I see it:

At least Faldage is trying...

...as I said, I'm no expert on scanning but line 5 would seem to want "NOWadays we'd CALL it"

You won't even attempt to plug mine in anymore...

...although I'm with you, tsuwm/faldage, on "OEUVRE"... one has to at least have a chance at successful application (regardless of propriety, of course)


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>At least Faldage is trying...

very trying. *rimshot*

or, alternatively: I don't think he's tried this form yet!


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I don't think he's tried this form yet!

Oh, I've *tried plenty.


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Oh, I've *tried plenty.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

---------

One ringy two dingy
AlexanDer graham bell
batteries, wires and
magnets in flux

Newspapers provoked to
telecommunicate
now it's too late to get
them to shut up.


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Nice one Websafe. And it scanned properly to me. Must be their acCENTs (on the wrong syLABles, doncha know)


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AHD NI3
AWADers all of us
Playing around with this
Poetry form

Calm(?) our discussions syl-
Labificational
Stress disagreement makes
Arguing norm



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OK, Doc. What's NI3?

This is such a great thread. I find myself with an Ohrwurm, though: I'm walking around trying out six-syallble words, and it looks like I'm talking to myself. Well, I am, but.


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Sorry. "NI3" is Webster's New International Dictionary, 3rd Edition.

I came across that abbreviation first at a venerable organization called the National Puzzlers' League
http://puzzlers.org/ (teaser: my son calls them "a bunch of the cleverest people in the world" and he doesn't dole out such praise lightly) that delights in word games and all sorts of outside-the-box verbal diversions. Might be worthwhile to glance at, particularly for any who like GEB/puzzles/etc.


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>"NI3" is Webster's New International Dictionary, 3rd Edition.

in these parts, a.k.a. W3


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Faldage and tsuwm: Thank you both for your thorough and specific explanations of double-dactyl scanning. The English-language dictionaries I consulted all gave "oeuvre" two syllables (I hadn't looked it up beforehand). As for "Nowadays, we'd call it," I did hear the (secondary?) stress on "call." Both of these were open questions to me while I was composing.

Coffeebean and Zed: Thanks for your pleasant remarks.

Wofahulicodoc: I enjoyed your poem and agree with its sentiment.


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"NI3" is Webster's New International Dictionary, 3rd Edition.

in these parts, a.k.a. W3

Autre temps, autre moeurs. "Other times, other customs." Totally fabricated-on-the-spot rationalization why my way is better: why use a three-syllable word when two syllables will do?

By either name I've never liked that dictionary, except maybe to check spelling. I've never forgiven them for including "uninterested" as a synonym for "disinterested." Among other transgressions.
(Besides, who ya gonna believe - me or some strange dictionary?)


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Totally fabricated-on-the-spot rationalization why my way is better: why use a three-syllable word when two syllables will do?

Well-thought-out online casuistry: why use three letters when two will do. regarding W3 trangressions: you have to understand their mission: to provide a description of "American" English. detractors read descriptive as permissive.

(I apologize if I was seeming to correct your usage of NI3; I've just been using W3 here and wanted to provide some continuity.)


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Yes, I took your usage to be descriptive rather than prescriptive ;-)

I know their mission; I just consider it a sad abrogation of responsibility. I guess that tells me which side of the fence I sit on !

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I have difficulty saying 'oeuvre' as one sylLAble.. (Ahem.) You are too sensitive.


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I have difficulty saying "oeuvre" at all!


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can I get some eggs, please?



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some eggs, please

I'll work on it.


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OK, sorry to whomever I used to "reply" to but this thread has veered away from the original purpsose...

Dag and I wrote a nice one after working hard to come up with a double dactyl name. Here ya go:

Waka-tow, waka-tow,
Jaco Pastorius
Bass virtuoso, was
Second to none.
He was convinced of his
Invincibility
Taunted a bully, his
Short life was done.

So there! I almost never contribute to these poetry things!


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Orthodox Shmorthodox
Judas Iscariot
bad-mouthed by many
for his perceived crime

Had he not done it then
incontravertibly
Christian religion would
just be small time.


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