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#102449 05/03/2003 1:12 PM
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metamorphosable... not an easy one to start this with but.

Higgamus hoggamus,
David D. Cronenburg
Had some te-Merity
Remade The Fly;
Goldblum was Shown to be
Metamorphosable,
We were told, "Be afraid,"
They didn't lie.


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here's a self-referential example:

Long-short-short, long-short-short
Dactyls in dimeter,
Verse form with choriambs
(Masculine rhyme):
One sentence (two stanzas)
Hexasyllabically
Challenges poets who
Don't have the time.
Roger Robison

(that's as may be, but it doesn't support the added stipulation of having a person's name as the second line--which really makes things a lot harder!)

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Those double dactyls are terrific, tsuwm.

Do you have any such examples for the contrary little pest, anapest?


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The Distracted Musician
(autobiographical, yes)

Holding my crash cymbals,
Counting the measures out,
Waiting to enter and
Doing my best;
Hear the bold trumpets play!
Woodwinds and saxophones!
Ah, here's my entrance -- OOPS!
Played in the rest.


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before we get too far afield, here are those basic stips.

a double dactyl has a rigid (if peculiar) structure. Two stanzas, each comprising three lines of dactylic dimeter followed by a line with a dactyl and a single accent. The two stanzas have to rhyme on their last line. The first line of the first stanza is repetitive nonsense. The second line of the first stanza is somebody's name -- strictly speaking, a proper noun. Note that this name must itself be double-dactylic. E.g. Gloria Vanderbilt, Jesus of Nazareth, Gilbert and Sullivan, Archangel Gabriel. In the second stanza, one entire line must be a double-dactylic word. E.g. biopsychology, geopolitical, gastrointestinal, abecedarian, etc. etc.

BTW, anapest is a dactyl (hint, hint), making it a heterological word.


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The second line of the first stanza is somebody's name


Sorry, I missed that. I'll try to stick to the roolz.


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...and don't forget the six-syllable word!!


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if you sing it to the tune of "The Irish Washerwoman", you'll get pretty close...
except for the fourth line... hmmm...




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(from the Weekly Themes thread)

Here's a classic example:

Higgledy-piggledy
Ludwig van Beethoven
Bored by requests for some
Music to hum,

Finally answered with
Oversimplicity
"Here's my Fifth Symphony:
Duh, duh, duh, DUM!"

~~



and here's another source for the rules of this and other fixed-forms poems:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2E112764

tsuwm, your maiden dactyls were lovely.


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Here's one that I think follows all the rules:

Doodilly, deedilly
Butler of Erewhon
Slogged through the high country
Staking a claim
Wrote on a hillside high
Autobiography
Led to a lifetime of
Living off fame.



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>sing it to the tune of "The Irish Washerwoman"..

I'm glad this tune doesn't come readily to mind--it's bad enough having that damnable rhythm Stuck in your Head


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hehe.

http://www.obrienclan.com/music/washer_woman.mid

this tune was also the one that Isaac Asimov used to pronounce chemical names...





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Whoops. Oh well, Mike ...

Hi-de-hi, hi-de-ho
Capfka of Wellybro
Writing a dactyl and
Dimeter too;
No need to reference
Encyclopaedia
No point in hoping that
tsuwm won’t sue!



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it's bad enough having that damnable rhythm Stuck in your Head

How does "Stuck in your head" go, tsuwm?


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>Stuck in your Head

this is the last line of a devilishly clever double dactyl..


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tsuwm ba-la, tswum ba-la,
tswum saw a likable
chance to enlighten all
those that have read.
these double dactyls do
au-to-mag-i-cal-ly
get that fun Irish tune
Stuck in my head.

oh well...



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Just for the sake of commpleteness -

There's also the practice that the first line is characeristically (there's a nice one for you) two nonsense words, paradigmatically (there's another) "Higgledy Piggledy" but anything will do.

Hoggamus Higgamus is another, and has an interesting history (as in Hoggamus Higgamus/Men are polygamous/Higgamus Hoggamus/Women monogamous").

The Irish Washerwoman also has the dubious distinction of fitting exactly the chemical "Paradichloroaminobenzaldehlyde" (a quadruple-dactyl, no less) repeated four or eight times, including the pickups to the next verse.


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...The first line of the first stanza is repetitive nonsense.

Just for the sake of commpleteness -

There's also the practice that the first line is characeristically (there's a nice one for you) two nonsense words


choptliverology <g>


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Willaby Wallaby
Wofa-doc missed it and
Made a correction he
Oughtn't have said.

Gave you the Mantle of
Invisibility.
I should sign off now and
Go straight to bed.


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Nice save, wofa!


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Inch me and Pinch me
went down to the river
Inch me fell in so
Who's in first?

Pitching Today
Catching Tommorrow
Pinch me remained
laughing in bursts.


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As you were saying: This tune was also the one that Isaac Asimov used to pronounce chemical names...
(and as I was saying...)

Writer of Sci-Fi was
Asimov, Isaac. He
Taught biochemistry
Once, at B.U.

Also he noted that
"Para-dichloro-
aMino-benzaldehyde"
Fits in these, too.



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musick, I think that's a triple diptych! <g>


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"Para-dichloro-
aMino-benzaldehyde"


you anguished a long time trying to decide where to put that "a", didn't you?



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tsuwm - Doesn't that make it "septych"?


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Oh, come on people. Have a go at the double dactyls. I can't do limericks for nuts, but this was fun and easy. I suggest you start by finding your six-syllable word and go from there. Wofa holds the originality prize so far, but the ASp's Beethoven one is the funniest so far.


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Scrumpdillyiciousness!
Jack and his Wife (the Sprats)
eat the last speck of food
as they make the plate clean.

At restaurants they're surprisingly
Nonconfrontational
they just smile and they eat
never causing a scene.

...the added stipulation of having a person's name as the second line--which really makes things a lot harder!

I'm officially ammending this steenkin' hierarchy to *allow well known couples...


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musick, let me count the ways..

1. a dactyl is three syllables, with the stress on the first,; see no. 4.
2. Two stanzas, each comprising three lines of dactylic dimeter followed by a line with a dactyl and a single accent..
3. The first line of the first stanza is repetitive nonsense. (e.g., Jiggery Pokery, Higgledy Piggledy, etc.)
4. so it goes
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DEE

DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
NONconfronTAtional
DAH dah dah DAH dah dah
DAH dah dah DEE

other than that, nice try. <g>


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Thanks, tsuwm...but I think I'll stick to pterodactyls.


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Oh, my. The Beethoven d-d wasn't mine, I dredged it up as a stellar example.

Since I can't (yet) come up with anything new, I hereby repeat the one I wrote to commemorate the first year of AWADtalk:

Higgledy Piggledy,
Anu Garg's AWADtalk
Celebrates one year of
Being today.

Stilling the urge to wax
Sesquipedalian,
I'll keep it short and say:
"Hip, hip, hooray!"

http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=announcements&Number=20656


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I can't do limericks for nuts, but this was fun and easy. ~ Capfka

This may be fun, but it’s not at all easy! For me, the AnnaS above and Coffeebean’s distracted musician, even if the latter is not quite to the rules, are sharpest so far.


Rattusye rattusme
Edward G Robinson
Gave us a rendering
Of Al Capone.

Cagney too acted the
pharmacophiliac.
You dirty RAT! the cry,
For which he’s known.




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G*D forbid there be any *real creativity in here... fine!

Mikey make mikey moo! Does the repetitive nonsense have to rhyme?<eg>
Jack and his wife (the Sprats)
eat the last speck of food
lick the plate clean.

Rest'raunts are s'prisingly (ha-ha)
Nonconfrontational
smiling and eating not
causing a scene.


I'm sticking to my *notorious couple clause... we need to "bridge the communication gap" {crossthreading-e}

ASp - I wanna know how you got away with "hip, hip, hooray" being accented "DUM dum dum DUM instead of the actual® DUM DUM dum DUM *we speak...

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Hossery Sossory,
Caius Caligula,
Mad Roman Emperor,
Gave his horse votes.

Unstable actions and
Sororilagnia
Brought death by assassin.
Horse got its oats.



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>G*D forbid there be any *real creativity in here... fine!

according to one practitioner of the art form, "Double dactyls are not for sissies and strictness of interpretation is the rule of the day." so it goes.


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strictness of interpretation is the rule of the day

We were told, "Be afraid,"

Those look an awful lot like anapests to me.


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>Those look an awful lot like anapests to me.

well, it all depends on where you put the stress, joe reversed archly. <g>


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where you put the stress

As in, where they'd go if you were actually® saying it as opposed to where they'd go if you were forcing them into the required pattern?


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well, now you know, I guess, why I haven't attempted any since that first one.


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why I haven't attempted any

Yeah, you're like me. You talk a good game…


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So, play, pillocks!


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