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Here in the IT *industry we, on occasion, do a little deed called "pinging". To 'ping' a computer one types in the command 'ping' and then the IP address. This sends a "hello" which, when answered, establishes that a direct line on communication is open (that's "The Roy Clark Big Note Songbook" explaination).
We inquire "Have you pinged the address?" when referring to using that command.
Nobody says "pung".
Yet:
*Have you rung the bell?
*Have you sung this song before?
Why?
... and why not "I've brung you all here to think outside the box"?
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Maybe they usually say, "I pang it yesterday" instead of using the past participle?
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Nope, we don't.
We may be using the "wrong" word, but both 'pung' and 'pang' just don't sound *right.
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New verbs are (almost) invariably regular.
Jive, jived, jived, not jive, jove, jiven.
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Well, dang! 
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Ping and pinged- both had a life before computers-- the same term is used by submarines, and is even more effective than sonar, (which has trouble sometimes distiguishing between the bottom of the ocean floor and something close to it that is not moving..)
submariners would Ping- the disadvantage was it confirmed the exact location of the "ping-er" as well as the "ping-ee" and submariner used "pinging" (as in "what about pinging the target?")
and it served a similar purpose...it confirmed the other party was "there".
Now days, side view sonar and improved electronics mean that its much harder for submarines to "run silent, run deep" as a way of hiding from other submarines..
(one bit of closely held technology is propeller technology, since propellers are a major source of "noise" new propeller design makes propellers (actually the water movement by the propellers) almost silent. a secondary advantage to silent propellers is , most of the noise is caused by "bubbles"- and bubbles stange as it seems are quite abrasive.. and actually erode the edge of the propeller blade, making them duller, and less effective.. i forget the term for propeller noice.. it begins with a c..(cacafination?)
(and brang (as in "I went on a school trip to the museum, and brang along a box lunch" ) is wrong in current english-- but it was brang (bring/brang/brought Vs. Bring/brought/brought) was correct in ireland up until WWII-- i heard it used as a child.)(brang was considered incorrect in English english for more than 100 years..)
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Covich spoke first, stating that ship acoustics began and matured at Carderock.
Work started in the 1940s with investigations into submarine propeller cavitation
noise. After World War II, ship radiated-noise trials began on a routine basis,
continuing through today. In 1960, NAVSEA became concerned with other kinds
of submarine noise. In 1964, the acoustics and vibrations lab was created at
Carderock. By the mid-1980s, the Ship Acoustics Department was the leader in
establishing, understanding and maturing the science of quieting ships.
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thanks Dr bill!
its not just the noise... propeller blades cut into the water and smooth thin, shaper blades use less energy to acheive the same ammount of movement. (just as thin pointed hulls on ships cut through the water faster)
the noise, (cavitation) is partly caused by bubble breaking (just as a SST leaves a sonic boom, the propeller leaves a vacuum as it screws it way through the water.. and the results is bubble formation..)
so making a 'quiter' propeller, (which makes it harder to find and track a ship at sea) also make the propeller more effecient (so submarines can go farther between re-fueling and retooling)
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... and to come full circle apoplogies to TEd for giving puns a bad nameas opposed to "sink, sank, sunk" we say "sync, synced, sunk"... (when describing the "act of syncronizing two groups of data to reflect within each other any changes made seperately to either") ... not without a grin while speaking *it. 
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Well, dang!
better than dung...
formerly known as etaoin...
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New verbs are (almost) invariably regular. Uh huh, like lant and lanted, I feel sure. (Well, it was a new verb to me.)
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