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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 moguing #101409 04/22/03 03:39 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta B Bingley OP Carpal Tunnel OP Bingley Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Anybody heard of this word? It's not in Onelook. The context (from Ellis Peters's "Saint Peter's Fair, page 163, the he and she are a young man and his mother): He hugged her impulsively, and kissed her cheek, and she put him off impatiently, with what was more a slap than a caress. 'Get along with you, and don't come moguing me until you're cleared of the worse charge, and have paid your fine for the riot. Now come and eat your dinner!' From the context it would seem to mean coaxing or something of that sort, but does anyone know more specifically? Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101410 04/22/03 03:57 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass mogue [Brit. slang. orig. Eng. regional] trans. To deceive, fool, trick; to play a joke on, make fun of. 1854 A. E. BAKER Gloss. Northants. Words II. 26 Mogue, to deceive, to cheat. ‘You shan't mogue me.’ 1891 S. O. ADDY Gloss. Words Sheffield Suppl. 38 Tha mun tak no notice o' him; he's nobbut moging thee! 1893 P. H. EMERSON Signor Lippo xvi. 60 Sometimes we mogue 'em by pulling 'em a bit, but those bookies are fly to the game. 1933 R. A. FREEMAN Dr. Thorndyke Intervenes xvi. 228 ‘We got it..from someone who had it from Wicks.’ ‘Get out!.. You couldn't. Wicks never had it. You are moguing me. I don't believe you've got it all.’ 1960 H. WENTWORTH & S. B. FLEXNER Dict. Amer. Slang 341/2 Mogue, to deceive. 1981 ‘E. PETERS’ St. Peter's Fair 135 Get along with you, and don't come moguing me until you're cleared of the worse charge. >It's not in Onelook. I'll have to remedy that! <g> Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101411 04/22/03 04:25 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta B Bingley OP Carpal Tunnel OP Bingley Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta So, I was reading one of the OED's citations. Um, tsuwm, could you also look up brychan for me. Ellis Peters mentions them quite often -- a sort of mat, or a garment that could be used as a blanket to sleep on, maybe? Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101412 04/22/03 05:38 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass brychan is not to be found in my usual sources, but try googling brychan Welsh blanket Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101413 04/22/03 06:12 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park of troy Carpal Tunnel of troy Carpal Tunnel Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park Bryspun is a brand of knitting needles.. my other obsession Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101414 04/22/03 06:37 PM Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 M maahey addict maahey addict M Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 555 Well......I googled Brychan Welsh blanket, and... OK, tsuwm I am still learning!...... It IS a Blanket made of home spun wool. I also found a monk, Cadfael, who I am sure is Bingley's friend and goodness!, many other new words on that site! Are these neologisms or nonces? [aside]Very nice word, moguing...thanks to both of you Here's the link: http://www.steveconrad.co.uk/cadfael/glossary.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101415 04/22/03 06:49 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass maahey, I couldn't get that glossary to open, but I did find this helpful for brychan: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Lloyd8.html edit: fwiw, the Cadfael glossary opens just fine via IE but not with Netscape. from the intersections with the wwftd list and others that are still in common use, I'd say there are few nonce-words or neologisms therein. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101416 04/22/03 06:51 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Capfka Pooh-Bah Capfka Pooh-Bah Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Wasn't Cadfael fictional? Pretty damn sure of that, actually. Dressed up as Derek Jacobi from memory. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101417 04/23/03 03:10 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta B Bingley OP Carpal Tunnel OP Bingley Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Thanks for the link to the glossary, maahey. I'm surprised by some of the words the compiler thought fit to include -- surely largesse and litany, for example, are still in fairly common use. Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: moguing #101418 04/23/03 04:15 AM Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 171 Hawaii, USA J JohnHawaii member JohnHawaii member J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 171 Hawaii, USA "surely largesse ... still in fairly common use." I assume you are referring to the one on Superman's chest? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 1 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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