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Would someone who is more up to date on fashion than I am (should be just about everybody) explain what a mullet is with reference to hairstyles?
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short on the top, long in the back... try: http://www.mulletjunky.com
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Your next challenge, consuelo, is to find a self-YART.
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If I should choose to accept it...
As absent-minded as I am, I probably have already self-yarted and didn't even know it!
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Ah, the mullet! It seems to have been experiencing a revival even among women in recent years (it a slighly different form). This seemingly coincides with the reliving of late 70s early eighties kitsch fashion and early electronic music (hello Moogs, Korgs and DX7s). The mullet is also refered to as 'hockey hair', AFAIK. The mullet has a name almost as absurd as the actual hair cut in the German speaking world, 'Vokuhila' (abbrev. from: vorne kurz, hinten lang, i.e. short front, long back).
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Here is the ostensible etymology from etaoin's mullet junky site:
* The term Mullet(hair context obviously) traces back to the 1967 prison film Cool Hand Luke, starring Paul Newman and George Kennedy, in which Kennedy's character refers to Southern men with long hair as "Mullet Heads."
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not proportionaly longer in back than it is in front?
I would say not. I think there has to be a sudden change from short to long for it to be a mullet. For many years, we knew it as "hockey hair". I can't remember when I first heard the word "mullet" but I was happy to have a word to describe the condition!
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> I would say not.
I don't think so either - according to the people at mullet site, the hair has got to be at least 3x as long at the back as any where else if you want your mullet to be taken seriously. What we can see in the picture is problably best described as a 'mop' or mop-like hairstyle (sorry David, ...and Michelangelo).
It really is a quite extraordinary sculpture in the flesh, .. er marble; it doesn't surprise me that it maintains it's popularity to this day. If you were to try to reenact David's evident triumph in practical day wear, then you'd probably get more than a few sideways looks, and if you were to stand around like that, you'd likely be called a poser or a little on the effeminate side.
Praise the abstraction - abhor its reality, paint bowls of scrupulously clean fruit unwittingly distilling biophobic zeitgeist ... ah I love this world .. let's turn off the telly and go to Disney Land and then Las Vegas!
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...at least 3x as long at the back as any where else if you want your mullet to be taken seriously...OK, but, even I have that description covered... 
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even I have that description covered...
but 3x0=0 so maybe you haven't?
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(but we already *knew that  )
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Anybody in this place who calls another weird is liable to be accused of indulging in the mutual blackening of cooking vesels.  (as the old saying goes; "All the world's mad but thee and me, David - and thee's a bit touched.)
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Indeed, it was meant as a supreme compliment, Rhuby
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Maybe we should change the name to A Weird A Day?
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(Oh yes we were! Here, I'll prove it: scrupulously clean fruit See, Connie's not the only weird one!) I saw a little of educational TV last night, and got to see Billie Holliday (sp.?) sing Strange Fruit. The narrator was saying that when her "ghost-written autobiography" came out, it implied that the composer, Abel Meeropol, had written it for her. His son (I think it was) said that Mr. M. wrote to the publishing company and asked them to omit that from future editions, as he had not written it for her and in fact his wife, Anna (?) Allen, had been the first to sing it.
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Or, if he did write it for her, he didn't realise it at the time.
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I think I just got whiplash...
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Just my little story regarding the mullet:
A gentleman at my place of employment sports one of these mullets. And I must say that even though the style is quite outdated,
it is so befitting for him, that everyone likes it on him. He has the perfect texture of hair for it. That is, thick and course and just the right amount of curl for the locks in the back to bouncily cascade down his neck and upper back. The color is salt and pepper, so we call him Pepper Locks, in lieu of the name that chicky in the Bears three goes by.......
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we call him Pepper Locks, in lieu of the name that chicky in the Bears three goes by.......
Which would be what? And who are the Bears three?
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poser
Heard this word bantered about a lot over on the VH1 Music Boards I used to frequent. The first time I encountered it was there a couple of years back, and it was usually used by folks who were dissing some band they didn't like for being a sellout, or a fraud to whatever genre they worked in (rock, grunge, etc.) The youngest on the board, especially the high school set, used poser the most. Am I getting the true sense of the word, poser, here, or am I missin' something?
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I've always understood a poser to be someone who strikes poses rather than does something from the heart, i.e., their main motivation is to impress lesser mortals. In your context WON, I think the accusation would be that the band was seeking street cred or was slumming to show the plebs how things should be done rather than having a genuine love of the genre.
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Am I getting the true sense of the word, poser,
In the sense that you and Bingley write about, WO'N, I have always spelt the word as posEUr, with the 'u'. A 'posEr' for me has always meant a question. Since the two of you use it, posEr must be an accepted alternative spelling for poseur.
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My dictionary gives poseur as the first meaning for poser, and difficult question for the second meaning.
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Whatever the dictionary says must be right I suppose (that’s irony*), but in my mind’s ear, ‘poser’ was originally used with a strong London accent, as in:
“’E’s a right poser, i’n’ ‘e.”
… and it meant their ex school - mate now drives a BMW and wears a Rolex and a blonde with long legs and short skirts but has difficulty with the repayments.
Now we all use the word ‘poser’ to describe the person who tries to give an undeserved or overplayed impression of success, or of being at ease in an environment or activity not natural to him/her. A fundamental characteristic of the poser, to me, is that they are unconvincing. I don't think that need be the case with the poseur.
*Note: I gather that we always have to give warning when irony is used. I don’t know why.
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RE:wears a Rolex and a blonde with long legs and short skirts
Tell me, does wear the blonde on his wrist? or some where else?
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wear the blonde on his wrist?
I should think, on his arm.
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Tell me, does wear the blonde on his wrist? or some where else?
I thought I'd leave that open...
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*Note: I gather that we always have to give warning when irony is used. I don’t know why.
I get it! That's an ironic comment, right?
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I gather that we always have to give warning when irony is used.
I tried *that and it doesn't werk, either...
...as the Asp just *explained why.
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Is it an ironic comment if you say it's an ironic comment when it isn't?
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Am I getting the true sense of the word, poser, here, or am I missin' something?
Think a combination of:
one who poses, ie gives the impression of being something they're not, and
one who imposes, ie tries to fit in somewhere they don't belong.
As mentioned above, it often implies impurity of motive. Think Robbie Williams as the "bad boy of rock" - he acts bad on occasion because he is the "bad boy of rock", and not vice versa.
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But he's too successful at it to be a poser. Now if he were to pretend to a deep knowledge of Russian ballet schools, then he would (I suspect) be a poseur. I guess, to me, a poser is a poseur with lower pretensions and therefor easier to detect. Robbie Williams 'lives up to his image' at times and that's subtly different. I think too that a poser is trying to impress people with whom he is *not trying to fit in - he is either trying to give them the impression that no way could they fit in with him anymore, he has left them far behind, or he is trying to convince the uninitiated that he is a part of some scene to which, in fact, neither he nor they have the entrée. I dunno, these are fine distinctions. Maybe they are only in my mind  . Maybe the real difference lies between the people who use the word poser and the poseurs who use the word poseur.
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