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For example, historic, to me, carries a weight that historical doesn't. "This historic occasion…" vs. "the historical marker on Rte. 13 marking the site of…".
Sounds about right. I was always taught that historical was the ordinary adjective for history (a dictionary on historical principles)or meant past not present (the historical events described in Shakespeare's plays) while historic meant important enough to be recorded as a major event in history (the historic landing on the moon).
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to me it's like "orientating"; just plain wrong.I don't like it either, eta, but we can't call it "wrong," right? 
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AnnaS, yes, you're right. it ain't wrong, jus' feels that way... gets me all burgly inside... 
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gets me all burgly inside
Makes you want to steal something?
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Ruby, I have often wondered how these new things get started! I always want to track it down and be able to say, "There! John (or Jane) Doe was the very first person to have used/said that".
Déja vu all over again: "orientating" IS wrong, it is, it is, it IS! [stamping little foot e] Even if you are lost in the woods and checking your compass, you can still be orienting yourself. T'other is just--argh, words fail me.
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Say what you will, orientate, which has a 150 year history is, and always has been, a verb and nothing but a verb. Orient is a verbed noun.
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How do you feel about orienteering?
Graphic is also a noun. How did that happen I wonder? Historic is not.
Just wondering.
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Graphic is also a noun
Adjectival noun?
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"Adjectival noun?"
I'd say substantivized adjective, as in "Send me your poor..." And why should both "crisp" and "crispy" exist? No reason I can see. At least "crispily" hasn't overloaded our vocabulary yet. Unless you count this sentence.
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substantivized adjective
Adjectival noun, substantivized adjective, iceberg…
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