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>And glass flows the other way in New Zealand.
Well, we do raise them to the Queen - it's called the "Cor! I owe Liz" effect.
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Ewww.
I don't believe it. Simultaneously good and bad.
How you do dat, Max?
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formerly known as etaoin...
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>How you do dat, Max?
It's a gift (in English or German).
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K Proud Korah's troop
Was swallowed up
Interesting pronunciation back in 1690... or is the ultimate 'p' *enough?
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Pronunciation definitely was different in C16/C17 from what it is now - on the radio today, I heard a reconstruction of part of Romeo and Juliet as they believe it was spoken in Shakespeare's day, and it sounded like a West-country accent!
However, a lot might depend from whereabouts in England the writer (or his parents) had emigrated. If they had come from the northern or north Midland counties of England, then "up" would almost certainly have been pronounced "oop" - as it still is today in those parts.
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Yah. I were oop in Brum terday.
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Massive Scandinavian influence in language and culture anywhere in England north of a line from the Wash to the Severn! A Scandinavian King ruled northerm England for quite a while - and even William, Duke of Normandy based his claim to the throme of England on his Scandinavian forebears.
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While William the Bastard (as he was known at the time) was indeed of Norse descent, his immediate claim to the English throne was that his cousin Edward the Confessor had allegedly promised him the throne during William's visit to England in 1051. Harold II had previously sworn to uphold his (i.e., William's) claim (though he repudiated it at Edward's deathbed), and therefore Harold was a usurper.
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