#14486
01/07/2001 2:33 AM
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#14487
01/07/2001 2:58 AM
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So much for sparing my feelings
There, there, my sweet Max--fear not, you are greatly loved,
though perhaps worship from afar isn't always very noticeable.
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#14488
01/07/2001 3:55 AM
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Now Maxie, you know I can't keep a secret    . And you did say "give me a ring" so nicely, too.
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#14489
01/07/2001 6:01 AM
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In reply to:
Jackie shocked me with: As far as I know, you are the only board member who has received a proposal of marriage from another!
He told you?! He promised me he wouldn't tell anybody! So much for sparing my feelings!
I know I'm new here, but surely, if you feel you must indulge in such off-topic banter, ought it not at the very least be in "Wordplay and Fun" or, better yet, in private exchanges?
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#14490
01/07/2001 2:14 PM
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I know I'm new here, but surely, if you feel you must indulge in such off-topic banter, ought it not at the very least be in "Wordplay and Fun" or, better yet, in private exchanges?You must be pretty new to still think that.  You see, any word uttered on this board is fair game for an off-shoot thread. Any thread has the possibility of spawning new life in a subject completely unrelated. It's a little like the parallel dimension theory. One event can spew history in a drastically different direction.
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#14491
01/07/2001 3:11 PM
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Any thread has the possibility of spawning new life in a subject completely unrelated.Couldn't have put it better myself! Yup, nemo, even one little word can lead to numerous new posts here! And that's one of the things that makes this place so interesting: what on earth will be said next? Hey--I wonder if any of this would have any publication merits? Anu, Anu--you might have some easy money here!
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#14492
01/08/2001 2:31 PM
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Only this morning I saw ice being delivered to the warung at the end of our street. A warung is a roadside stall selling simple meals such as fried rice or noodles, or a small kiosk selling packets of noodles, soap, toothpaste, sweets, mosquito coils, and other small essentials, including soft drinks, which are kept in a chest with blocks of ice, replenished daily. The ice is usually delivered on a handcart, something like a large squared off wheelbarrow.
Incidentally, a small internet cafe is called a warnet, short for warung internet.
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#14493
01/08/2001 2:45 PM
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Most people I know refer to a 45rpm vinyl as a record, a 33 1/3 rpm as an album or LP
The 45 being a single song per side format would have replaced the original 78; the 33 1/3 would have replaced the multi-record album format.
I did notice the word record being used to refer to a CD in the copyright notice on a German CD (from the series, Heilige Liturgie {Musik?} der Ostkirchen) that I was listening to the other day. I'll start a general check on my CD collection.
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#14494
01/08/2001 4:40 PM
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Venders in NY still get blocks of ice in the summer, and cover them with a heavy leather cloth-- and then uncover them to "shave" them with a small metal plane that shaves the ice and collects it--
Our shaved ice is serverd with simple fruit flavored syrup--(about $1 for a 10 oz cup, piled high) Not like the shaved ice desserts i had in Indoesian restaurants-- with sweet corn, pea flour threads, and red bean paste..
I think those to be interesting food-- but not quite dessert!
I too, (following an other post) remember the ice man comming round-- we had an electric refrigerator, but the fish monger got ice twice a week, from a big sawdust lined truck. The ice man had a big grinder, and would grind the block into chips, and we all wanted some of the ice chips.. and i was in my teens (late '60's) before we stopped getting fruits from the fruit vender on his horse drawn wagon-- the junk man had a wagon too, The grindstone man had a bike like contraption, that could either let him peddle away-- or turn the grindstone. But by the '60's he was in a truck. I still have a grindstone man that come up my block-- and all the women run out into the street with our knives drawn!-- he clangs his bell, and goes very slowly... and then stops and sharpens all my knives, and scissors too.
Its stange-- but that is one of the things i like about NY-- this big modern city still has shaved iced and grindstone's coming round, ringing their bells... a sort of timelessness.
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#14495
01/08/2001 9:31 PM
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Our shaved ice is serverd with simple fruit flavored syrupFunny you should mention that. The past three years I've had a summer job at a Hawaiian Shave Ice confectionary along the "Loveland" bike trail. (There are plans to make this bike trail run from Cincinnati to Cleveland.) Anyway, At this place we have an ice shaver in which you simply put bags of small cubed iced and it shaves it that way. Much easier than a huge block of ice and an exposed blade. I counted once, and I think we have about 55 flavors at this place. It's a great job, especially when there are concerts in the park across the trail. And of course, no, I don't have a real job, I'm still in high school and I spend too much time here.
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#14496
01/08/2001 11:32 PM
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What was once shaved ice is now shave ice, and I now see "ice tea" on menus, instead of the erstwhile "iced tea". Is there a trend to drop the "d" from adjectives, and what do you think of this?
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#14497
01/09/2001 2:27 AM
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Which brings us to one of my favorite queries:
Which would you rather drink? An ice cold beer or a nice cold beer?
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#14498
01/09/2001 2:41 AM
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>What was once shaved ice is now shave ice, and I now see "ice tea" on menus, instead of the erstwhile "iced tea". Is there a trend to drop the "d" from adjectives, and what do you think of this?
You may well laugh at my educate guess, but I think it's a much-publicize trend largely attributable to misinform people whose overrate teachers should have made more concert efforts to ensure that their underprivilege students received a well-round education.
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#14499
01/09/2001 3:54 AM
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Jazz: There are plans to make this bike trail run from Cincinnati to Cleveland. It must have done something very  bad? That's a l-o-o-ng way, Jose!
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#14500
01/09/2001 6:07 PM
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The former is an abomination. The latter is an oxymoron.
Ted wanders off to make sure his Guiness is cool, NOT COLD DAMMIT!!!!
TEd
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#14501
01/09/2001 6:33 PM
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Say, Ted, another thing we have in common... I like my pint closer to room temperature.
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#14502
01/09/2001 6:41 PM
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Oh- Ice cold--or even better, served over ice..
I am not much of a beer drinker, and even in US, the idea of putting beer into a glass with ice, is unacceptable-- most beer drinkers say Yuck!-- some think i should be stopped from doing something so disgusting in public, but i like it that way.
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#14503
01/10/2001 5:00 AM
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Maybe you don't put ice in your beer in the States, but you sure as hell chill it to within an inch of its life! Every time I drink beer in the States, the first swig just about has my fillings exiting, stage left.
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#14504
01/10/2001 9:47 AM
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>Every time I drink beer in the States, the first swig just about has my fillings exiting, stage left.
I recognise the problem, we had a friend from Venezuela and when he came to the house we had to put all the beer in the freezer as the fridge just wasn't cold enough for him! Ouch!
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#14505
01/11/2001 12:23 PM
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From Doug: Say, Ted, another thing we have in common... I like my pint closer to room temperature.
From Helen: even in US, the idea of putting beer into a glass with ice, is unacceptable-- most beer drinkers say Yuck!-- some think i should be stopped from doing something so disgusting in public, but i like it that way.
Proving once again that de gustibus non est disputandum. (That phrase is so universal that even I can mangle it in 4 languages!) But perhaps the two views might converge when "room temperature" shoots up above 30 degrees Celsius.
I say this because the Germans in Namibia often take their beer with ice, something they wouldn't dream of doing in Bavaria.
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#14506
01/11/2001 2:45 PM
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an aside to the question of how to serve beer: many 'liquor' stores will have cases of beer stacked in the aisles at reduced prices from those applied to cases from the coolers. this time of year (winter), the quick fix for this in the Upper Midwest is to stick the case in a snowbank on the deck....
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#14507
01/11/2001 3:09 PM
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It tastes pretty bad if we drink it at a reasonable temperature (Excessively cold and excessively hot beverages, and food in general, tend to deaden the taste receptors).
In a related story: The Dictionary of Misinformation, a small volume dedicated to the debunking of popularly held beliefs, although generally lacking in humor, has the following entry regarding the beer drinking habits of the English:
Many people believe that the English drink their beer warm. The English do not drink their beer warm. They drink it at room temperature, which no one who has spent any time in England is likely to confuse with warm.
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#14508
01/11/2001 3:23 PM
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Poster: Jeffrey
Subject: Re: Shaved ice/shave ice
What was once shaved ice is now shave ice, "Shave Ice" is particular to Hawaii. Sort of pidgen I think. Makes sense as it was a Hawaiian stand in Cal. Hawaiian shave ice is the fruit syrup and yummy. wow
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#14509
01/11/2001 3:35 PM
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Its interesting how state liquor regulations change marketing from state to state.
NY States Liquor laws are famously arcane.. Liquor stores in NY almost never sell beer-- beer is sold by beer and soda distributors, who can also sell only NYS wines. Wines from out of state must be sold in liquor stores.. Most vendors who are licenced to sell beer can also sell NYS wine but not any out of state wines-- out of state produced wine can only be sold by liquor stores This actually causes problems since it make it technically illegal for me (or any one in NYS) to
1) purchase a case of California wine in CA, and carry it home with me on the plane (or in my car)
2) it also makes it illegal to purchase out of state wine over the internet-- unless the seller/distributor has a NYS liquor licence.
So if i want so Zild wine i have to go to the liquor store, but NYS wine is available in my grocery store!
Even the large discount liquor store associated with Costco don't have beer-- Costco carries it.
many of the beer/soda distributers don't have coolers-- in the summer they chill the whole warehouse/store to 40 f. (what that 3 or 4 or so C.?) or so, in the winter they open all the doors or in some other way vent in outside air-- its been close to 0 c all week, a bit colder at night. beer goes skankie really fast at NYC summer time temps. (33 to 37 c. not being uncommon.)
Curiously, for many years, (but alas, no longer) the largest wine producing county in NYS was Kings County-- known to most as Brooklyn. Manishevitz (unsure of spelling) had a large winery/factory for producing Kosher food in Brooklyn, and the produce more wine than any single one of the upstate finger lakes "wine country" counties!
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#14510
01/11/2001 3:46 PM
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Since we cook food in a microwave, are we microwav-ing it?
No. The microwave is cooking it.
We walk. We drive. We sing. We can do lots of things. We cannot cook food, however, anymore than we can fly to Paris. I've heard that a very rare steak is done after being held in the armpit for two minutes, but I doubt this.
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#14511
01/11/2001 3:47 PM
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English beer is drunk neither warm nor at room temperature. A good cellarer keeps it at some exact coolish temperature, I forget what, but about 13 C. Warmer or colder than that is distinctly less perfect.
This is never room temperature, even if it's that or colder outside, because if it is cold out, the pub will have a roaring fire (or at worst a nasty technological equivalent).
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#14512
01/11/2001 4:44 PM
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No. The microwave is cooking it.Okay, metameta, go right ahead and take all the fun out of things!
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