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"The History of English" is available as a set of video tapes. It was created by MacNeal of the "MacNeal Lehrer Report" seen for many years as the evening news program on the American Public Broadcasting System (PBS). Can't remember his first name. MacNeal is Canadian by birth.
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But it is striking that NZ is ethnically very Scottish, yet has no trace of Scots in the accent.There is a trace of Scots in the only distinctive regional accent within NZ. Southland has its own accent, distinguished by being markedly rhotic, in sharp contrast with the very non-rhotic NZ standard. FWIW, your mention of Kent interested me, as my sister, born and bred in NZ, was often asked by prisoners of Mother England if she was from Kent. 
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Re: Books I've mentioned this site before but I thought I'd let you know that the BBC Radio 4 programme "The Roots of English" is now in its third series and has published books and CDs, available from BBC books. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/routesofenglish
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>as my sister, born and bred in NZ, was often asked by prisoners of Mother England if she was from Kent
That is interesting. I tried out my own version of both accents and noticed the similarity. In NZ I suspect that Kent would sound like Keent. In a London/Kent accent (found in many offices in the City) Kent would be pronounced like Cairnt which, in a high-ish voice is pretty similar.
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>a primary factor that created the isolationism you mention
I would think that distance must have been another factor. I wouldn't have thought that many ordinary people would have travelled extensively within, even the North East of America, let alone further afield.
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"...Roger what-his-name, I am told, walked 60 miles from Massachusetts..."
Bit spooky this - Roger who? My first name is Roger and, as mentioned in the initial post, I was born in Mass!!
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Oh, all right then, since someone has resurrected this one, I just have to have Maxie on about his statement There is a trace of Scots in the only distinctive regional accent within NZ. Southland has its own accent, distinguished by being markedly rhotic, in sharp contrast with the very non-rhotic NZ standard.
Max, Southland was settled by predominantly English settlers. A professor of linguistics at Otago University some time ago debunked the theory that the burr in the Southland accent is Scottish in origin - but couldn't explain where it came from for certain. There were a number of early settlers from whaling ships in that area, and the idea that the Cornish or Devon accent was perpetuated out of Bluff or Riverton was the favourite. This was twenty years ago - the view could have changed.
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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Capital Kiwi did chastise me thusly: Max, Southland was settled by predominantly English settlers. A professor of linguistics at Otago University some time ago debunked the theory that the burr in the Southland accent is Scottish in origin - but couldn't explain where it came from for certainTo which I can but reply - Job 42:3
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What can I say? Job 42:2 ....
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Aw, I love you guys! [heart emoticon]
Job 42:3--You ask, 'Who is this that questions my wisdom with such ignorance?' It is I. And I was talking about things I did not understand, things far too wonderful for me.
Job 42:2--"I know that you can do anything, and no one can stop you."
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