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#100691 04/11/2003 2:02 AM
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I just sent a PM to a friend, responding to a statement that this person and other new people have at times felt like they're intruding on a family. I thought I would share what I wrote, and add my thanks for the compliment.

"I can certainly see where you and other new people might feel a little hesitant to "break in", as it were. That troubles me, but I don't quite know how to make it easier, either. I suppose it could be treated as though you were in a new job; all the others know each other, yet you have every right to be there. Some people may reach out to you, but no one is actually obligated to. You may need to find your own way. Yes, there are some inside jokes; there are pretty well bound to be, in an established group; but you'll learn many of them in time, and become part of others, yourself."


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that's very well written, Jackie.



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You are so sweet!


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When I was but a mere sprout, my family moved to a new neighborhood in Chicago. There was a whole bunch of kids on the block who were my age and I always assumed that Mike Santori was one of the oldtimers (insofar as one can be an oldtimer in kindergarten). It was years later that I discovered that the Santoris had moved in to the neighborhood only several months before my family had.

For any of you who have been looking in very recently here is a short, and by no means comprehensive, list of newcomers who have recently moved right in and become family members:

etaoin
Coffeebean
RubyRed
maahey
bonzaialsatian
birdfeed
JohnHawaii
johnjohn
rav
vika
immigrantus
Zed



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One of the reasons I finally decided to post was that "emotionally" I was beginning to feel connected to the AWAD crowd, simply from having read so many posts (and looking into a few of the in-jokes). Another was that I'd seen how welcoming many of you were to newcomers. Although still a little shy, I do feel now that if I have something to say, it won't be shot down just because I'm new. No, it'll be because I "mantled" someone, or YARTed in public, or didn't add the "R in a circle" to harumph...



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I have wondered for a long time why we have so few members posting, when over
3000members are registered. The more who participate, the more fun for everybody.
We need all the talent we can get.


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I really appreciated the "welcomes" I got when I first arrived. I tried to send a couple of PM welcomes but apparently screwed up and sent them to myself which missed the whole point.
To anyone who's wondering, Come on in the water's fine and I haven't seen a shark yet.


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Dear Jackie, Faldage and Dr.Bill, Thanks for the kind words and the welcome. This is a great place to wake up to and you are wonderful folk. Thanks for the welcome, for all that I have learnt from you and, for the GREAT camp 2 atmosphere.
And for everyone else on this board too, a big thanks for making it such an enjoyable place.

Here's to words, more words and some more words!!! [clink]



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-- and a warm welcome to your echo, maahey - be assured that it (he? she? do echoes have gender/sex?) is really welcome, as will everyone else out there who is reading this and isn't sure whether to come in through the door or not.

Come on in, pull up an ochlonym and make yourself at home - here - have a toasted nit-pick! (Courtesy of Faldage, of course )


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In reply to:

pull up an ochlonym


~RC

Second cousin of the mobnym?


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we have some rather saucy dips for those roasted nit-picks, too!





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fading echo Thanks Rhuby! Some days I am especially absent minded!

eta,


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saucy dips Takes one to know one, eta!

YARTed in public Oh, horrors!

What the heck is an ochlonym? Or a mobnym, for that matter?


#100704 04/13/2003 1:13 AM
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What the heck is an ochlonym?


Nothing like a chocklonym, I hope.....


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Hi, I'm the Grasshopper...and I get the nits that Faldo misses (toasted or not!).

And I also extend a hearty welcome to all the new yous I may have missed...there's been quite a few lately! Hard to keep up! I was scared to death to post, myself, after a few months of lurking...finally, I did...and after getting thoroughly creamed and shellacked on my "bogart" and "Neanderthal" threads, I felt right at home! Well...almost... I did wonder in public on the next thread if one of the kindest, gentlest posters here was giving me a sort of fraternity hazing for being new!hi insel! So all I can say to any lurkers is take that polar bear plunge into the pool of cold water...and you get used to it right away! 'Cause, you know, you gotta!....


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Mob rule! Or put more nicely : rule by the populace or government dominated by the populace.


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Second cousin of the mobnym?


Sort of, Dub-dub. The meaning ascribed to it about a year ago on a thread that I'm far to idle to LU was name for a collection of things - a collective noun, no less. As in "a crochet of hookers", for instance


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rule by the populace or government dominated by the populace.


Well - strictly speaking that would be "ochlocracy", wow.

([Aside to all newcomers:] This is a practical demonstration of "Nit-Picking for Beginners". The Advanced course is run by Faldage and WO'N)


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From ancient post by NicholasW, would he were stith us still:


I thought about this when it first appeared and couldn't come up with anything, not that that means
much given my brain raddled with port and age: the term in linguistics is collective noun.

However, if we want an onym (an onymonym?) for it, let's go for ochlonym, from ochlos 'crowd'.
(Already present in another fun word, ochlocracy = mob-rule.)

As a nitpick, it mixes Greek and Latin.











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>As a nitpick, it mixes Greek and Latin.

stick a feather in your hat
and call it macaronic.
http://www.bartleby.com/61/27/M0002700.html


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it mixes Greek and Latin

Huh?

okhlos Greek

-onumon Greek




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I think the plucking of lice-ova was concerned with the "-cracy" bit, Faldage, dear boy.
-cracy derives from Latin cratia meaning something like "power" (possibly "strength?")
Although I think that the Romans derived the word from the Greek, originally.


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Dear Bill! many thanks for tracking it down. I know I was impressed by the word at the time, so much so that I wrote it down and stuck it to the side of my computer with a bit of blu-tak!


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strictly speaking that would be "ochlocracy"

And here I thought "ochlochracy" means "where time considerations govern your every action"...


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the Romans derived the word from the Greek

Quite right, old chap.

Latin -cratia < Greek -kratia from kratos, power.

So my original question stands:

Huh?


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Re: with a bit of blu-tak

a blue comment in white!
commonly called Smurf come--
i presume you are familier with smurfs, blue, elfin cartoon creatures, 99.9 male, with only one Miss Smurf, who was always chaste! which made the blu-tak a common enough



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i presume you are familier with smurfs,

I am aware of who (or what?) they are, but have never been so familiar with them as to experience,[ahem] "smurf-come"
If blu-tak is an analagous substance, I don't wonder that Miss Smurf remains chaste!


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strictly speaking that would be "ochlocracy", wow.
([Aside to all newcomers:] This is a practical demonstration of "Nit-Picking for Beginners". The Advanced course is run by Faldage and WO'N)

Sigh One does the best one can at the time ... Meanwhile Here's a theme song for Faldage and WO'N:
(Chaucer, Rabelais and Balzac Forever!!!)
From "The Music Man" by Meredith Wilson.

Pick A Little, Talk A Little
Everyone
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more. Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more. Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more

Maud: Professor, her kind of woman doesn't belong on any committee. Of course, I shouldn't tell you this but she advocates dirty books.

Harold: Dirty books!

Alma:Chaucer!

Ethel:Rabelais!

Eulalie: Balzac!

Maud: And the worst thing Of course, I shouldn't tell you this but-

Alma: I'll tell.

Ethel: The man lived on my street, let me tell.

Eulalie: Stop! I'll tell. She made brazen overtures to a man who never had a friend in this town till she came here.

Alma: Oh, yes That woman made brazen overtures With a gild-edge guarantee. She had a golden glint in her eye. And a silver voice with a counterfeit ring. Just melt her down and you'll reveal A lump of lead as cold as steel. Here!, where a woman's heart should be!

Eulalie, Alma, Maud, Ethel, and Mrs Squires:
He left River City the Library building - But he left all the books to her !

Alma: Chaucer!

Ethel: Rabelais!

Eulalie: Balzac!

Everyone:
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little,
Cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep
Cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep
Cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep
Pick a little, talk a little, Cheep!

P.S.http://www.clipper.net/~nancyw/The_Music_Man.html is a page of slang from early 1900s used in the musical! Very interesting and some definitions have illusrations! Fun way to spend a few minutes!! Enjoy.


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Captain Billy's Whiz-Bang!!





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So's your old man!


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I have my house pretty much torn apart, doing things to increase it's market attractiveness, so all I had for sound yesterday was the music channel on the satellite. My favorites are show tunes, but it causes a problem when I'm painting or something because I am constantly trying to identify obscure songs from obscure musicals, not that The Mucus Man is obscure.

I was listening to Trouble in River City and an odd thing occurred to me. When my father first started working, he bought art illustrations for a magazine called Captain Billy's Whizz Bang, and later, during the Depression he earned extra money by writing dime novels, which he could churn out in two or three days and for which he was paid $20 or $25. A publishing house in the Twin Cities put them out under a variety of author's names, none of which were my father's, unfortunately, so I have no way of finding any of them.

But, so far as I know, he never ran a boys' band.



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And if he churned out the puns like you, it's probably just as well!


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>>What the heck is an ochlonym?

>Nothing like a chocklonym, I hope.....




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Ochlonym is a fairly recent coinage, alleged to me "mob name" or pseudonym used by a criminal.
The earliest use of a fictitious name I can think of is Odysseus telling the Cyclops his name was
"Nemo". So authors have noms de plume, warriors noms de querre, radio amateurs "handles"
CB'ers ditto. Just the other day, I was instructed to provide a "screen name" for a new e-mail
account. I prefer to use my own name, but had to add some numbers.
But crooks want to make it harder for cops to identify them, ao the use aliases, and now
oschlonyms, if they yet know the word.


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I registered in 2002 but I read only your posts. I'd love it, because in this way I learn English. I can to learn about your live. It is fine.
Krzysztof from Poland


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Welcome Krzysztof !

I may be the first but will certainly not be the last to extend greetings to you. Whatever you can learn from our postings is good, and we will be happy to hear more from you any time you like!


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Welcome Krzysztof ! Stay with us and comment often - we love to hear differing opinions - even if it is just because it gives us a chance to express *our wonderful - and of course correct - opinions!

How's the weather in Poland? Spring arrived yet?
Aloha and Blessings.


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>How's the weather in Poland? Spring arrived yet?
Aloha and Blessings.

oh yes.. aloha is the word that makes me smile.. spring arrived for a while and run for the hills yesterday :( we have such untranslatable nicely proverb which main sense is that the weather in poland is in april very very changeable :(



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Welcome Krzysztof!!

and rav, I think everywhere has a saying about changeable weather!! like, "don't like the weather? wait five minutes, it'll be different!"





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Dear Krzysztof: Please continue to post here. The more posts we get, the more fun.


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