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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread douceur #99026 03/18/2003 4:32 PM Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2 Issaquah, WA ringger stranger ringger stranger Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2 Issaquah, WA Good morning. A comment on the second usage example for "douceur" by Nicholas Fraser: I suspect that the intent here is not the negative sense of "tip" or "bribe". My understanding is that the Herzls and the Wittgensteins of fin-de-siecle Vienna possessed large fortunes from industry and were enjoying the sweetness and freedoms of the good life, so I suspect that this is commensurate with the French meaning. It would seem that a second sense should be included to reflect this. Regards, --Eric Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: douceur #99027 03/18/2003 5:20 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 I looked up both Herzl and Wittgenstein in the Encarta Encyclopdia, but could find nothing to indicate to what extent their inheritances subsidized their careers. In any event wealth did not lead them to prefer dolce far niente. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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