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#81079
09/18/2002 9:02 AM
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why do doctors use this term to mean "the patient turns up"?
Does it include situations where you do a ward round and find someone with a particular condition??
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#81080
09/18/2002 2:40 PM
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Dear jj: I'm glad you didn't ask me, because I don't know. It doesn't sound like a
professional term to me, just a colloquiallism.
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#81081
09/18/2002 3:18 PM
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You mean the classic line from a TV medical show--
"This patient presents with rash that covers head and upper torso, fever..." ?
i think they use the term to describe the symptoms they can see, and the patient can describe... but not all syptoms are immediately visible, or noticable.
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#81082
09/18/2002 5:20 PM
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Dear JJ: I failed to connect your subject title with the sentence. "The patient present" is
then just wasted words meaning "the patient has come to the hospital because of".
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#81083
09/18/2002 5:50 PM
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"The patient present" is then just wasted words meaning "the patient has come to the hospital because of".
Really! Why waste one word when you can say the same thing perfectly well with a mere seven?
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#81084
09/18/2002 8:11 PM
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Dear Faldage: A better opeining is: "This patient's chief complaint is.........."
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#81085
09/18/2002 10:11 PM
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dear of troy - yes, that seems intuitively right, ie these are the external manifestations or symptoms, without benefit of pathology, histology, x-rays etc.
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#81086
09/19/2002 1:02 PM
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This patient's chief complaint is..........
Doc, I got this pain in all the diodes on my left side.
The patient presents a severe case of paranoia.
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#81087
09/19/2002 1:33 PM
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Dear Faldage: I never suspected that you were a bionic man.
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#81088
09/19/2002 1:52 PM
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never suspected
Well, you may continue.
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#81089
09/28/2002 9:03 AM
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i found this explanation useful
present (verb) To offer for observation, examination, or consideration; show or display. (The American HeritageŽ Dictionary)
it is a most appropriate word (cf complains of, comes with, is seen because of) since it embraces the sense of the patient putting forward symptoms for evaluation as well as the physical act of being present to the exam.
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#81090
09/28/2002 10:26 AM
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Allow me, subho, to offer you our welcome to this board. I hope you will stay and present us the benefits of your own slant on this rich language and give us hints into others.
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