#71879
05/31/2002 10:58 PM
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Without permission.
Ma'am, your opening post chose to cite your view of the correspondence -- with no greater permission. One may rebut.
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#71880
05/31/2002 11:06 PM
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I decided I'd better expound a little, despite my distaste for did not/did too.
Ewein, I made that statement with no details, in an effort to try and spare your feelings, based on the assumption that you love the man and would prefer not to hear negative things about him. No, he has not told me that he WOULD sue me. His statement revealed that he had considered the prospect, and to me that constitutes a very real threat.
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#71881
05/31/2002 11:45 PM
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Carpal Tunnel
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Upon the shore, a mile or more / From traffic and confusion,
An oyster dwelt, because he felt / A longing for seclusion;
Said he: "I love the stillness of / This spot. It’s like a cloister.:
(These words I quote because, you note, / They rhyme so well with oyster.)
A prying rat, believing that / She needed change of diet,
In search of such disturbed this much- / To-be-desired quiet.
To say the least, this tactless beast / Was apt to rudely roister:
She tapped his shell, and called him – well, / A name that hurt the oyster.
The latter’s pride was sorely tried, / He thought of what he could say,
Reflected what the common lot / Of vulgar molluscs would say;
Then caught his breath, grew pale as death, / And as his brow turned moister,
Began to close and nipped her nose! / Superb, dramatic oyster!
We note with joy that hoi polloi / Whom maidens bite the thumb at,
Are apt to try some weak reply / To things they should be dumb at.
THE MORAL, then, for crafty men / Is: When a maid has voiced her
Contemptuous heart, don’t think you’re smart, / But shut up – like the oyster.
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#71882
06/01/2002 12:07 AM
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old hand
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"Have you ever threatened either explicitly or implicitly to file a lawsuit or any other form of legal proceeding in this matter? If so, have you ever said or implied that you would refrain from or desist from filing such a lawsuit if the person or persons to be named as respondents would reverse their position and unban you from the AWADtalk board?"
Are you kidding teD, Keiva is much too clever to use the auspices as an Officer of the Illinois Court to harass and intimidate private citizens representing a non-profit private organization into doing his will by threating them with personal loss and tribulations by the accretion of legal costs necessary to the defense of a frivolous lawsuit.
Keiva is childish and vindictive and a bully, but he's not dumb. Unlike Awad, the State of Illinois has a Bar Association with imperative disbarments that are not subject to intimidation.
Well one by one everybody's jumping ship. Pretty soon it might just be Keiva and me. We might become fishing buddies.
But if we do, Keiva buddy, I'll weigh my own fish and I want to sit with my back to the motor in the back of the boat.
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#71883
06/01/2002 12:10 AM
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Take a cue from the oyster.
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#71884
06/01/2002 2:10 AM
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My one year anniversary on the wonderful adventure that AWAD has been for me would have been very soon. Thanks, Ken, for turning this adventure into a nightmare for me and many of my friends. Bye, all. Like Annastrophic said, those I care about and that care about me know how to get in touch. Those that have misplaced that info, I will continue to accept pms at this site. Hasta entonces.
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#71885
06/01/2002 12:46 PM
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Posts: 5,400
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Creation is difficult, getting a site to grow and florish is hard. Nurturing ideas, contributers, buiding a environment were ideas can freely be shared takes a huge amount of effert.
but, destruction,, destruction is easy.. one person, selfishly, can destroy something, just because it is not absolutely perfect.
nothing is perfect, and now, we have nothing
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#71886
06/01/2002 1:22 PM
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enthusiast
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Pyrrhus inherited the throne of Epirus in Northern Greece around 306 B.C.E., and as a young man proved himself on the battlefield again and again. Pyrrhus apparently had great strategic skills, but he also had the reputation of not knowing when to stop. In 281 he went to Italy and defeated the Romans at Heraclea and Asculum, but suffered bitterly heavy losses. The devastation led to his famous statement, "One more such victory and I am lost" -- hence the term "Pyrrhic victory" for any victory so costly as to be ruinous.
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#71887
06/01/2002 8:46 PM
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enthusiast
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This sucks. I can't believe it has all come down to this... Like so many others of you, I see no point in hanging around when all of the people I love best are leaving. The atmosphere will never be quite the same again anyway, I'm afraid.
I won't be gone completely-- I'll probably come back once in a while to see if there are any developments and to check my PMs.
Thanks Anu and almost all of you for the fun times we've had on this Board. I'm sorry that they are coming to an end.
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#71888
06/01/2002 10:00 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
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Pooh-Bah
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Inevitable, certain, ineluctable, ineludible, inescapable, inevasible, necessary, returnless, unavoidable, unescapable, unevadable.
Mournfulness, sadness, sorrowfulness, unhappiness; grieving, lamentation, mourning, sorrowing; dejection, depression, melancholy; agony, distress, dolor, misery, suffering, wretchedness.
Abandon, desert, forsake; reject, repudiate; cast, discard.
Adieu, farewell, goodbye.
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#71889
06/01/2002 10:13 PM
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Posts: 4,189
Carpal Tunnel
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The Emperor of Ice-Cream
Call the roller of big cigars,
The muscular one, and bid him whip
In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered fantails once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If her horny feet protrude, they come
To show how cold she is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
--Wallace Stevens (1879-1955)
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#71890
06/02/2002 4:28 AM
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old hand
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> a waste of DNA
Reminds me of a new saying (to me at least) I picked up on a minesite this week....
[bold]"....nothing but an oxygen thief".[/bold]
stales
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#71891
06/02/2002 4:37 AM
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> ...and many others - Max, of troy, wwh, Wordwind, hev
Better add me to the list.
stales
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#71892
06/02/2002 3:41 PM
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Posts: 275
enthusiast
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Jackie,
You know that you were the first one to welcome me on the board and sustained me with your lovely words and very sincere personal concern. Although I have not met you and did not really carry on a regular communication but still I hope you know that I have come to love you as if you have been an old friend. So you know how very sad and devastated I am to read this, your bombshell. It is that to me, a real bombshell that I was surprised with because I had been lulled into thinking that all is well. I will be in touch with you, I hope you will let me. I have been feeling on top of the world lately but this event has surely brought me down with a thud.
That is how much you mean to me.
I am misty-eyed and I feel so forlorn.
I am trying hard to post to keep this place going because I believe it is too precious to lose and that includes you and all the good and brilliant people from whom I have gotten so much delight being wordcrazy as I am.
Jackie, words cannot express.....however hard I will try.
I love you!
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#71893
06/03/2002 6:07 AM
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I decided a few weeks ago, for various reasons which I conveyed to Jackie privately, that I would not be having much to do with this site again. I simply looked in this afternoon in the hope of finding something that might perhaps change my mind.
Instead I found Jackie's bombshell, which I read along with a few other related threads, and I am appalled and very distressed at what has been going on here, especially in so far as it relates to Jackie herself.
I don't much care whether any of the "threats" I have read about were real or implied. It doesn't matter a lot to me precisely how or why or in what manner of words Jackie has been hurt by various postings and PMs. Clearly she has been hurt and distressed by these things, and when you hurt Jackie you hurt a whole lot of people on this board.
It is a great shame that what used to be a warm, friendly forum has been torn apart by this controversy. Sorry to rabbit on like this, but I felt I had to go public with my withdrawal from this place of pain and upset.
This is probably my longest posting ever (except for a certain 14 line offering back in the dear dead days beyond recall, eh, Jacqui?). And now, like quite a few others, I'm outa here, at least for the foreseeable future. To those who remain, good luck, and I hope things get better for you soon.
lusy
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#71894
06/03/2002 3:28 PM
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addict
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Enjoy posting by yourself, Keiva.
I've no doubt you'll continue to wear the smug smile that can always be heard through the language of your posts, but you'll be smiling alone.
I'll look forward to continued conversation with the many wonderful people I've gotten to know here at AWAD.
Hyla
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#71895
06/04/2002 2:09 AM
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journeyman
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What's all this about a lawsuit??
ARE THERE DEFENSES TO DEFAMATION?
Establishing the truth is the single most effective defense that can be offered. If the remark is truthful and it "hurts", is embarrassing, or subjects you to ridicule, there is little you can do. Unfortunately, unless the remark is false, you have no recourse.
snoot
The Lone Haranguer
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#71896
06/04/2002 3:10 PM
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Carpal Tunnel
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unless the remark is false, you have no recourse.
Are you sure it has to be false?
Isn't there a situation where if the truth is published with "malice" ... which of course would have to be proved ... then there is a case?
Just wonderin' !!
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#71897
06/07/2002 10:05 PM
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#71898
06/07/2002 10:09 PM
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addict
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#71899
06/07/2002 10:22 PM
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No, not really Angel. I think everything has pretty much been said on both sides of this issue. My input would be moot.
The only reason I made a few posts with nothing in them is that I thought it was a shame, and rather mean, of Keiva to go all the way back to March to look for a post by AnnaStrophic to bring back to the top so that it could be "implied" that she was AnnaGraham by inference. (since the threads wound up right beside each other)
And I would hope that he is mature enough to own up to this since I think going all the way back to a March post to add "yes - I am confirming what both women said is true" seems a little way out there.
And it saddened me that it would stay that way since I know the inference is false.
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