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Honestly! The things you guys make me think about! Sitting here repeating aloud the various pronunciations of "during" until none sounds right and I can't recall how I say it normally. I think I'm with AnnaS and usually say doo-ring, possibly dyooring - never juring. But from now on, it's certain to catch my ear when someone else says it.
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Pardon, aren't all words and all pronunciations and all meanings in a state of transition?
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Pardon, aren't all words and all pronunciations and all meanings in a state of transition?
Pardon, aren't all generalizations dangerous?
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Don't know whether this is widespread in the States - but have noticed on some US television programmes that 'participants' often pronounce 'ask' as 'aks' and 'vulnerable' as 'vunerable'. Is this the norm? Not conscious of presenters/announcers etc. using these pronounciations. Moreover, have never heard the former down under; the latter is creeping in.
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Have none of my fellow USns noticed that in the US, the long 'u' sound, correctly pronounced like 'yew' with the initial 'y' sound, as in 'during' as discussed, is slowly being displaced by the 'oo' sound? Except among those who are careful of their pronunciation, 'new' and 'knew' are now pronounced 'noo', as in Noo Yawk. This goes for any words with the long 'u' sound, whether they are spelled with 'u' or with 'ew'. Next I would expect to hear a she sheep called an 'oo', but that practically no one uses the word 'ewe' outside of crossword puzzles. So we don't see a big problem with 'during, jury', etc -- they are being pronounced 'dooring', 'joory', etc. It's a trend I hate; I think the 'oo' sound in place of the long 'u' is inelegant, to say the least.
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during I've always heard and pronounced during as "derring." Is that an East Coast (US) thing?...of troy?, wow? It seems some repronunciations suddenly spring back into usage from nowhere...like I've noticed lately that a lot of folks are making it a point to crispen the "g" in strength again (which is correct), when the lazier "strenth" suited folks (including me) just fine for decades. Maybe I just have a lazy tongue.  One recent glaring change over the past few years just drives me crazy... forté. All my life, a large part spent in the theatre where this word is commonly used ('that's not my forté', or 'that's my forté'), it has been pronounced for-tay. The, by some unknown linguistic decree, about 4 or 5 years ago everybody in the media started to pronounce it fort. I looked it up and the former is actually an acceptable, though not preferred, pronunciation. But why on earth take a wonderfully poetic, double-syllable word, and suddenly decree it to be pronounced like a hard lump of dead wood? I'll never get used to that, and for-tay it shall always be with me. I want to stick a bar of soap in their mouth whenever I hear someone do that to that word. Fort  !!! Thanks, WW, I've been meaning to post a thread on this for quite some time, but somehow always got distracted but something else whenever I thought of doing it. So thanks for giving me the opportunity to finally post it here. 
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> Antipodeans, do y'all palatalize the d in during (and the T in Tuesday for that matter)?
(1) If I understand palatizing correctly - in Australia we don't. We follow the line that Bean's come across in Newfoundland ie "dyew-ring" and "Tyews-day".
(2) I was mortified to hear George dubyah talking about the reduction of the USA's "nyew-kuh-lar" arsenal yesterday. This is right up there with "arks" for "ask" in my book!!
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Just thought of another..."chassis"
The original pronunciation I used was "shazz-zee" but I hear others (US'ns especially) using "chass-ee". Is one more correct than the other?
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