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06/14/2001 8:50 PM
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Today I came across the word "deflagration" - (noun form, naturally, of deflagrate - To burn or cause to burn with great heat and intense light - AHD). This prompted me to look up conflagration (A large destructive fire).
So - which one's bigger? I've always thought of conflagration as about as big as a fire can get, but perhaps I've just never come across a deflagration.
Does anyone actually use deflagration (I came across it in a fairly technical sense)? Is a deflagration not necessarily destructive, but a conflagration is, by definition?
Also noted that deflagrate exists, in both transitive and intransitive senses, but conflagrate seems to have burnt itself out over time.
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#32373
06/14/2001 8:53 PM
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From the definition it sounds like deflagration is more about intensity than size.
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#32374
06/14/2001 8:59 PM
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OED2 gives it as a Physics term, more in use in the 18th and 19th Cs.
1. trans. To cause to burn away with sudden evolution of flame and rapid, sharp combustion (e.g. a mixture of charcoal and nitre thrown into a red-hot crucible).
1727 Bailey vol. II, Deflagrate, to inkindle and burn off in a Crucible a Mixture of Salt or some mineral Body with a Sulphureous one. 1794 J. Hutton Philos. Light, etc. 208 When coal is deflagrated with nitre. 1876 S. Kens. Mus. Catal. No. 1369 The spark from this battery deflagrates a platinum wire a foot long.
2. intr. To burst into flame and burn away rapidly.
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#32375
06/14/2001 9:24 PM
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It is not a question of size, but of time. A whole bunch of sites made it clear that deflagration refers to the initiation of burning. Conflagration is the late stage when the burning process is going to completion.
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06/14/2001 11:06 PM
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deflagration > To cause to burn away with sudden evolution of flame and rapid, sharp combustion
Like magician's flash paper?
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#32377
06/14/2001 11:11 PM
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Condeflagration?...as the larger consumes the smaller?
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#32378
06/16/2001 6:07 PM
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I always thought of conflagration as having the connotation of a very large fire, such as an entire city on fire. See also "firestorm."
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06/18/2001 8:40 AM
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Most chemists are secret pyromaniacs  , so the term deflagration is very familiar to me: it is a manner of burning which is just below an explosion in its intensity. It does not cause a shot noise, but rather a "swishing" noise. This is generally brought about by an oxydizing agent which is mixed with the combustible material, as mentioned in the example "nitre" plus charcoal. If the same mixture is enclosed in a shell and ignited, it causes an explosion.
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06/18/2001 5:13 PM
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I would understand a deflagration to be the initial stage, and possibly the origin, of a very large fire... something like an explosion. And, for me, a conflagration would be the large fire burning in a somewhat continuous way, until controlled.
Marianna
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