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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Cynic #198339 03/16/2011 3:08 PM Joined: May 2005 Posts: 456 SE US Aramis addict Aramis addict Joined: May 2005 Posts: 456 SE US From last week but still no answer: How is dachshund supposed to derive from kwon? It is obviously from German dachs and hund and multiple sources put it at 'badger dog'. This is another one of those cases of "Whuhh?" Colour him cynical: Last edited by Aramis; 03/16/2011 3:10 PM. ÅΓª╥┐↕§ Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Cynic Aramis #198341 03/16/2011 4:34 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Kwon? Kwon? Is that Pie speak? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Cynic Aramis #198348 03/16/2011 11:46 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Initial /k/ in PIE became /h/ in Germanic. Some specific examples: PIE ker- English hearth Compare Latin derived carbon PIE kerd- English heart Compare Latin cor Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Cynic Faldage #198364 03/18/2011 10:16 AM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Aramis, you do honour to your falcon image. A flyghty passer-by. I'm sure in the era of kwon there were no Dachshunde yet. Hunde yes. So I guess kwon became hwon and after some more juggling hon- hond- hunde. Dutch still retains the o - hond. Don't ask me how Hunde-hond became dog. Or vice versa. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Cynic BranShea #198368 03/18/2011 12:25 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Don't ask me how Hunde-hond became dog. Or vice versa. It didn't. There is no accepted etymology for the English word dog. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Cynic zmjezhd #198369 03/18/2011 12:44 PM Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 677 Middle Earth bexter addict bexter addict Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 677 Middle Earth and we also use the word hound for dog... ----The next sentence is true. The previous sentence is false---- Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Cynic bexter #198371 03/18/2011 1:10 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh we also use the word hound for dog Yes, and English hound is related etymologically to PIE *kwon 'dog'. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Cynic zmjezhd #198373 03/18/2011 2:16 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague How could I have forgotten the hounds... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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