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#195641 01/07/2011 2:20 PM
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...I think...possibly...anyway I recently reread some information on Hugo Gernsback, inventor of the genre of SF (the word at least - he set up a pulp dedicated to it)...he named his scientific fiction stories SCIENTIFICTION (I know it's a mouthful right?) and very shortly the TI bit disappeared and the word became SCIENCE FICTION and then later on SCIFI or SYFY and even later SF...I was wondering if any of you knew of any other words which started out longer and then sort of amalgamated into a shorter word (or two)? (I am also pretty sure that amalgamation is the wrong word but as I can't think of the word that I wanted it shall suffice)...SHEPHERD is one I think...from SHEEP HERDER?


(presque vu I believe it is called when you can't remember a word...you know 'it's on the tip of my tongue')

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presque vu

I think that comes from a passage in Catch 22 and means 'almost seen' in French. When you think you've seen something (almost) but haven't.

As for the other question, some linguists preferred linguistician for a student of linguistics as opposed to linguist for a polyglot.

As for shepherd, its form in Old English is sceāphirde, so in a way it was shortened, but then lots of words were shortened in the transitions from Old to Middle to Present-Day English.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Quote:
zmjezhdI think that comes from a passage in Catch 22 and means 'almost seen' in French. When you think you've seen something (almost) but haven't.


I read up about deja vu recently and found about another vu where the suffers have the continuous feeling that they have lived their whole lives already and are just repeating everything. It has to be done exactly the right way or they get panic attacks and have mental breakdowns. Something along the lines of vecu avant like deja vu but for your whole life

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Movies have been made like that. What a situation to be in.


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I suffer from a slight anxiety disorder (goodness that sounds a) melodramatic and b) really depressing!) that is annoying but I can't imagine how horrible it must be to be in that position - a combination of anxiety and OCD


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Anxiety is terrible. So is depression. I work as a volunteer
with folks in addiction. Many have these.


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he set up a pulp dedicated to it) What is pulp in this sense, please?

Goodbye is an example of what your OP is about.

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A pulp is a magazine printed on low quality paper, so called because often the pulp that composed the paper could be seen in the pages. It generally had the connotation of cheapness.

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Now, 'pulp' is one I understand. Again different parts of
the country, different vocab.


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LukeJavan8 #195735 01/08/2011 10:33 AM
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Yes, that's right...there used to be one for each genre (mainly romantic/thriller) and you might get a bit of one story in each edition amongst other stories...buy the next one to read what happened next sort of thing.
The word pulp however has come to have many more negative concepts added to it that it didn't originally have...started off as being a cheap way of reading literature (aimed at 'the masses') and could be recycled (fires, compost etc) as it was just pulped paper and string

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Sort of like "dime novels" and "penny thrillers" of the
Old West?


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Indeed


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Why the green smilie?
Sick, or just sick and tired of it all???


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I was watching some old-time Westerns the other day, and
a small boy had a dime novel of Billy the Kid. Then
Billy came to town and made the boy's day.

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hehe I love old westerns...recently got Clint Eastwood's spaghetti westerns...first films I ever saw him in...he is a true genius smile

The green smiley made me laugh...it is the only green one and no-one else uses it to my knowledge so I thought that it might feel a bit left out smile


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On another site I belonged, they had a green smiley, and
I always used it (to everyone's distaste) to express
'yucky' when referring to their previous comment. No
comment on my part just the yucky green smiley, so that is
why I asked. How very nice of you to have empathy for it.


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hehehe It just looks so sad...like it will break down in tears at any minute (it looks almost identical to a friend's little sister who used to hold her breath, and then cry if that failed, whenever she wanted something and wasn't allowed it...she tended to look a bit more purple though...)


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If only we all had more empathy, there would be less
crying. We could read each other's feelings and help
before things got out of control. We had a 17 year
old this last week, go into his high school and shoot
the principal and vice-principal, the latter dying.
He then left,drove a few blocks and killed himself.
And everyone is wondering (as they always do) what could
have been done earlier, and why did nobody notice.
Pathetic.


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I was happy Luke until, I read your last post. It reminded me of a boy at my sons school....who came to school and shot himself. No-one else. There was no note and his family, friends and teachers had no idea that anything was wrong before that day. It left everyone stunned.....

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(I never thought of teaching as being a dangerous occupation, before.)

Back to subject...
The film...Pulp Fiction is a good example of 'pulp' it evens starts off by giving the dictionary meaning of the word....then proceeds with a mixed up series of events that all tie together in the end.

As to amalgamations......I'm thinking

text messaging or texting....now, txing, txt or plain tx.
as in phone text messaging and now common on the internet

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Originally Posted By: Candy
I was happy Luke until, I read your last post. It reminded me of a boy at my sons school....who came to school and shot himself. No-one else. There was no note and his family, friends and teachers had no idea that anything was wrong before that day. It left everyone stunned.....




The school even had condolences from the Columbine, Colorado, school where two youth shot and killed 9 I believe
a few years back. We had a youth shoot and kill 11
here in a shopping mall about 5 years ago. And today
the young man who shot and killed five and wounded a
Congressperson in Arizona. Pathetic.


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Originally Posted By: bexter
I suffer from a slight anxiety disorder

Who amongst us doesn't have a problem? I am moving this week to a village by the sea to begin a new job in mental health. My job will involve writing and I am not knowlegable in the field, but being a lot crazy in the head myself I already feel the empathy, that Luke was talking about, in the little work that I have done. I think mental problems should not be pejorative. The being is made up of the body and mind. Just as there are problems in the body there are those also in the mind. Okay I am a bit of a nut. So what.
ETA: Of course I am not commenting on the shoot outs here.

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I don't call that pathetic; I call it horrifying. Ironically, I was just reading a little while ago an article by Richard Lederer on JFK's inaugural speech calling for civility.

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Originally Posted By: Avy
Originally Posted By: bexter
I suffer from a slight anxiety disorder

Who amongst us doesn't have a problem? I am moving this week to a village by the sea to begin a new job in mental health. My job will involve writing and I am not knowlegable in the field, but being a lot crazy in the head myself I already feel the empathy, that Luke was talking about, in the little work that I have done. I think mental problems should not be pejorative. The being is made up of the body and mind. Just as there are problems in the body there are those also in the mind. Okay I am a bit of a nut. So what.



I have not problems with seeing a psychiatrist nor
psychologist. Thanks Avy.


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Wow, I had missed your post altogether, somehow, until Luke quoted you. Good luck in your new digs and work! smile

Edit: corrected spelling! blush Sorry, Luke!

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Thanks, Jackie.

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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8
And today
the young man who shot and killed five and wounded a
Congressperson in Arizona.


Yes just heard that on the news over here...what a great start to 2011.


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Last week here in my city we had a 17 year old go into
his school with his policeman father's gun and shoot
and kill the vice-principal, wound the principal, and
then drive a few blocks away and kill himself. Now
Arizona.


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