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#194232 11/25/2010 8:36 PM
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HOGWASH word YEGG

I found this word and thought it would be a good hogwash word so I'm starting a new round with the word...

YEGG

The participants in this game are to suggest a meaning for this word, a spurious definition (known as 'daffynitions') and submit them (by private message ) to me, bexter.

You have a se'nnight to send your ideas in and then your genius daffynitions will be posted and voting will begin. (I may be persuaded to extend this period if necessary).

I'm looking for the most imaginative meaning, not necessary the real meaning, as it will be revealed at the end of the game
because, you all know...no cheating. Do not use a dictionary or google the word.

This is my first hogwash round so have fun everyone.

(apologies if it goes bottoms up at any time!)


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Should be fun. I have my daffynition already, and will
send it soon. Thanks for starting a new one. A fun
part of this site for sure.


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bexter #194241 11/25/2010 11:21 PM
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Chalk me up as one who knows this word. I don't think I'm the only one but if I am I can play along and vote for the best daffynition.

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thanks bexter....it was my first time last round and I have been waiting anxiously for next word, so I could play.

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Chalk me up as one who knows this word. I don't think I'm the only one but if I am I can play along and vote for the best daffynition.


so are you're saying.....that you cant make up something else because you know its wrong!!!!

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No. I'm saying that I know the word and I would think that many others would, too, so it's probably not a good Hogwash word. I could make up a def and vote on one I know is wrong just because I think it's a good daffynition. But then I might vote for the right definition with a prior agreement with bexter that my vote didn't count. Just so you don't eliminate any choice just because I voted for it.

Faldage #194333 11/29/2010 10:52 AM
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Is that like playing 'The Kansas City Shuffle' Faldage!

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I don't have any recordings of that number, Candy, so I wouldn't know.

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as in the song by J.Ralph - Kansas City Shuffle
and the movie with Bruce Willis, Lucky Number Slevin'

using misdirection, subterfuge.

"A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks left, you go right."

You Tube

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I don't know the word. I will give it a try if you get enough
clients for this word. Would be nice to know a bit about this. It's a busy time of the year.

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Feel free to send me one. smile
I don't have very many so far and am hoping for more...it was a choice between yegg and kibitka and I thought (perhaps incorrectly) that yegg was the more unusual of the two...


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Hmmmmm....kibitka.....a small Bulgarian dinner roll???


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Ah now that would be telling :p ...I think I'll keep it for another round (as the current one isn't going so well maybe kibitka will make a better word? Don't suppose I could change it now...)


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As Bran indicated, it is a busy time of the year.
Just give it time, and keep reminding people.


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yegg was a wwftd pre-2002, and also gets a OneLook score of 17 - I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

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So you already know...you could always add a daffynition? Or i could change it to kibitka which no-one seems to know...I seem to have made a bad decision there!

ps is 17 a good score?


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Hey, Yegg is a good word. Weird but good, and many of us
were not here in 2002, probably the majority.


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back in the day when I regularly posted hogwash words, I wouldn't use anything with a OL score more than two(2), and I strove for zero! but that was me searching for really, really obscure words, which I also used for my wwftd site.
YMMV.

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Being new to OL scores, what are they and who decides them?


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bexter #194439 11/30/2010 9:59 PM
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Also if words have scores what score does philiater have? Just out of interest...


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it's just the number of online dictionary hits you get when you plug a word into the OneLook.com search tool. for an instance, searching for 'set', one of the more common English words, "We found 106 dictionaries with English definitions that include the word set". some folks here also referred to the more restrictive general dictionary score, "General (35 matching dictionaries)"

re: philiater - YCLIU at onelook.com

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It's 3 so that's all right then...
ps is YCLIU an acronym for you can look it up? not so good with acronyms longer than three letters


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bexter #194444 11/30/2010 10:26 PM
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YCLIU - I prefer the snootier "You Could Look It Up". grin

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True, and it sounds better, I prefer EHOAD myself

ps on further inspection philiater has a score of 2 - it's not on dictionary.com


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just a note I'd add for anyone who might be unfortunate enough to get hooked by an interest in obscure words. the usefulness of onelook as a tool for analyzing the obscurity of words has been somewhat degraded by the rank amateurs now to be found online; see wiktionary, Wordnik, UD, etc. edit: and the tactics of Dictionary.com and others.

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In which case, if you are ignoring wordnik, then it is 1. Plus I'm not hooked to obscure words, I just read a bit of my (rather large and unwieldy) dictionary every day :p
Also they must have found the entries somewhere and spent a lot of time typing up all of their entries no? The open dictionary allows one to add words (as does wiktionary I believe) but that is still a fairly reputable source...

the tactics of Dictionary.com and others what are these tactics of which you speak?

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Wordnik has some very good people behind it; their problem is that their wordlist is way ahead of the content; i.e., definitions and examples.

wiktionary is limited by the wiki construct.

Urban Dictionary is bleah and ecch.

>the tactics of Dictionary.com and others what are these tactics of which you speak?

your example is not atypical; they have many words listed which refer elsewhere or have no content at all; in other words, it seems as though having a word listed is more important than defining it! perhaps they're all just placeholders, but.

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
YCLIU - I prefer the snootier "You Could Look It Up". grin


"You Could Look It Up" is a quote from Casey Stengel, IIRC.

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He was a baseball player, right?

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm


Per which we see it cited as You can look it up.

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This is all very interesting but in the meantime....
Yegg. Done!

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
yegg was a wwftd pre-2002, and also gets a OneLook score of 17 - I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.


Did you check out my word..wagiman, then....what score did it get?

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Originally Posted By: Jackie
He was a baseball player, right?


I just looked him up.....and my initials are KC or the other way round....so I could've used CASEY as a 'handle' (I'll keep that in mind for another time......guess its too late to change names here now! )

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Originally Posted By: BranShea
This is all very interesting but in the meantime....
Yegg. Done!


yegg done then, Bran! Me too grin

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Originally Posted By: Candy

Did you check out my word..wagiman, then....what score did it get?


< ahem > YCLIU

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okay, okay - I LIU (because this sort of thing interests me) and wagiman has a OI of one(1!); it's actually only to be found in wikipedia, which explains that it's "a near-extinct indigenous Australian language spoken by fewer than 10 people."

not the sort of thing that you'd find in an actual dictionary..

(yes, I checked OED and W3. nope.)

p.s. - it's nearly impossible to find a good obscure word with an OI of nil these days. blame the aforementioned amateur lexicologists (and me ; )

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oh...OK, thanks.

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Quote:
blame the aforementioned amateur lexicologists (and me ; )

tsuwm are you referring to yourself as an amateur lexicologist or are you distancing yourself from them as you are a 'professional, expert lexicologist'?

ps where do you find your words if not in a dictionary of some sort?


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>where do you find your words if not in a dictionary of some sort?

browsing the dictionary(s) now comes last amongst my various sources, which include my own reading/suggestions from subscribers/word books/online word lists/Wordnik (just kidding)

if you mean how do I look them up, I use one of the dictionaries I have access to, online or brick & mortar. d'oh.

come to think of it, my b&m dictionaries are getting quite dusty, as most everything I use is available online, including OED (through online library access) and W3 (available by subscription).

edit: I'm as amateur as they come, albeit my list is indexed by OneLook. (and there are still a few words for which wwftd is the only hit. some years ago the webmaster at OL sent me word lists compiled from their misses, and I used that as a source for words!)

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