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In the Tlingit culture of Alaska, young boys usually about age 3-4 would be taken from their parents and be given to their uncle to raise as it was believed the uncle would be better at bringing them up in a more strict atmosphere.
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I've read about this, seemed to work.
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'Dutch Uncle' seems to be stricter, installing discipline and maybe less kind opposite meaning to the other word this week avuncular or uncle like who is more indulgent, understanding and tender.
I wonder why this should be!
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In many African families living with an uncle will mean more beatings.
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young boys usually about age 3-4 would be taken from their parents and be given to their uncle to raise
Not just any uncle, but one of the mother's brothers. Membership in a Tlingit clan was mainly via matrilinear descent. The fathers did take an interest in their son's grandchildren.
The pronunciation of Tlingit in Tlingit is /ɫɪŋkɪt/ and is sometimes pronounced Klinkit in English. The voiceless alveolar lateral fricative /ɫ/ is the same as the Welsh phoneme represented by ll.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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as in the town Llanfair?
Yep, as in a lot of Welsh words. Llan means originally 'an enclosed piece of land'. By the way, the f in Llanfair is pronounced /v/. Ff is pronounced /f/.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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--thanks. That 58 letter town on the Island of Anglesey must be a real "bugger" to pronounce, having the ll more than one time and f's as well. thanks.
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That 58 letter town on the Island of Anglesey must be a real "bugger" to pronounce
The name was coined in the mid-19th century to provide the longest placename on record. The -fair- in the name means 'of Mary'. Llanfair means '(St) Mary's church'.
The phonological change of m to v is common in Celtic languages and is called lenition in linguistics (an older term was consonant mutation).
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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I've been to that town in Wales. And had just read Morgan's "How Green Was My Valley". The slate was all over the ground, and I asked a local boy, whose name was Gwyneth Jones to carve the name of the town (Llanfair) on a piece of slate. He found a nail and did so, and I still have it as a souvenir of Wales. It was very much fun hearing the boy say the name of the town. A good memory. There is so much I do not know about linguistics,but I thank you for helping me out here.
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