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Just thought I'd let you all know that I finally got* Mozart's Requiem yesterday. I got the recording by the Wiener Philharmoniker (Germany). I can't tell, but would guess, that the soloists are German. In some places, singing Latin, they actually rrrroll their r's. Is that correct?
*I could have gotten it for about $10 including shipping from Amazon, and it was $15 at the record shop. But not only is the record shop locally owned and been in business for a long time, it is known for having a vast variety including recordings by local artists--several local bands have gotten publicity by playing live IN this shop--but it is in danger of having to close due to so many people just downloading music now. I strongly believe in supporting local businesses when I can.
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[quote=Jackie I can't tell, but would guess, that the soloists are German. In some places, singing Latin, they actually rrrroll their r's. Is that correct?
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Yes, indeed. Should be done in any variety of choral Church Latin. Some differences you will see in German Church Latin from the more often heard Italianate are "ts" for C before E, I, and Y, rather than the Italianate "ch", the pronunciation of GN as in "doG Nose" rather than the Italianate "ny" as in "caN You", and pronouncing initial S followed by a vowel as "z".
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I can't tell, but would guess, that the soloists are German. In some places, singing Latin, they actually rrrroll their r's. Is that correct?
Yes, indeed. Should be done in any variety of choral Church Latin. Some differences you will see in German Church Latin from the more often heard Italianate are "ts" for C before E, I, and Y, rather than the Italianate "ch", the pronunciation of GN as in "doG Nose" rather than the Italianate "ny" as in "caN You", and pronouncing initial S followed by a vowel as "z". which can be a right pain when you sing the same work with different conductors...
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Our director has been giving us even more specific pronunciation rules. We did the Mozart C Minor Mass with pronunciation that would have been used in that part of Germany at Mozart's time. When we did Orff's Carmina Burana recently we did it with 13th century Bavarian German Latin pronunciation.
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the pronunciation of GN as in "doG Nose" Well--I did not know to listen for this specifically, but I'm sure they sing og-noose Dei: I'd have noticed if they sang on-yoose. Thanks for the info.
with pronunciation that would have been used in that part of Germany at Mozart's time. When we did Orff's Carmina Burana recently we did it with 13th century Bavarian German Latin pronunciation. !!!
(Just checked--yep, og-noose.)
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but I'm sure they sing og-noose Dei: I'd have noticed if they sang on-yoose.
Ognus Dei? Egg news day? Agnes and Doris Day?
we did it with 13th century Bavarian German Latin pronunciation.
I'd love to read the monograph that established the 13th century Bavarian German Latin pronunciation. Quod would facere my diem.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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After a few Bavarian German eggnogs we all will speak it fluently.
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I'd love to read the monograph that established the 13th century Bavarian German Latin pronunciation. Quod would facere my diem.
He's got a book. I've got the title and author somewhere. I don't know if they have anything more than just a this-is-how-it-is, but it might be worth a check. I'll see if I can dig it up for you.
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Ognus Dei? It's spelled Agnus Dei; I was attempting to put the pronunciation. 'Spose I could've put ahg.
Quod would facere my diem. That would make my day?
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