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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Scienter - adverb or noun? #188039 11/30/2009 3:48 PM Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,526 Virginia, USA TheFallibleFiend veteran TheFallibleFiend veteran Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,526 Virginia, USA "adverb: Deliberately; knowingly." "The judge said that the complaint, if true, would show BankAtlantic's executives acted with scienter -- the intent or knowledge of wrongdoing that's the key to a plaintiff's argument in a class action complaint." Brian Bandell; Judge Lets Class Action Suit Proceed Against BankAtlantic Bancorp; South Florida Business Journal; May 22, 2009. In the usage section, "with scienter" is an adverb phrase, but "scienter" serves as a noun. Is "scienter" perhaps always used with "with" so that the entry should be "with scienter?" Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scienter - adverb or noun? TheFallibleFiend #188041 11/30/2009 4:42 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Scienter is a Latin adverb meaning 'knowingly'. Many Latin legal phrases change parts of speechiness over time: e.g., sub poena is a prepositional phrase what got nouned, ignoramus was a verb to noun, habeas corpus a sentence to noun. FWIW, most of the ghits on the first page or so of Google books (link) are sans with. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scienter - adverb or noun? zmjezhd #188042 11/30/2009 5:09 PM Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,526 Virginia, USA TheFallibleFiend veteran TheFallibleFiend veteran Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,526 Virginia, USA Ah! That's helpful. Thanks. On a related topic, I notice that I often hear "apropos of." Is "apropros" commonly used by itself (other than as a Unix command)? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Scienter - adverb or noun? TheFallibleFiend #188043 11/30/2009 5:18 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Is "apropros" commonly used by itself (other than as a Unix command)? Not sure I'd ever heard apropos of X, but it seems common enough. I use apropos as a preposition, but that may be some weird kind of faux French kinda thing. Is it just me, or was Unix pretty sad before BSD came along and gussied things up? Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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