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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Karst #185872 07/17/2009 9:01 AM Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 3 Italy Tony Attanasio stranger Tony Attanasio stranger Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 3 Italy "From German, after the Karst, a limestone plateau near Trieste, Slovenia". Non quite. The word may have entered the English language through German, but Trieste in neither in Germany, nor in Slovenia. It is in Italy, and the limestone plateau near Trieste has an Italian name, i.e. "Carso". Apart from a short period of time, when it was under Austrian rule, and an even shorter period of time (after World War II) when it was Slovenian, the region has always been Italian (or at least Neo-Latin) from a linguistic point of view. So, unless we want to imagine a pre-Roman etimology for Mount Carso and the Carso area, Karst should be taken as of Italian etimology. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Karst Tony Attanasio #185877 07/17/2009 1:04 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh The Karst region extends from south-west Slovenia to north-eastern Italy with bits in Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina. There are many forms of the name and geological term: Italian Carso, Friulan Cjar, Slovenian Kras, Croatian Krš, Latin Carusardius. The origin of the term is usually ascribed to a pre-Indo-European language, kar(r)a 'stone'. Quote: Per la sua etimologia il toponimo va messo in parallelo con una base pre-indoeuropea Kar 'luogo roccioso', ma bisogna riflettere sul fatto che i parlanti della zona con carso e carsadelo, designano il 'secchio' e nello stesso tempo il 'crepaccio che penetra profonamente nel suolo'. Ottavio Lurati, "Toponymie et géologie" in Quaderni di semantica, anno XXIX, numero 2, dicembre 2008, p.440. The article is in French, but I could only find an Italian version quoted online. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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