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#181522 01/07/2009 12:11 PM
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I never heard that term before. but

"brand spanking new"

is very common.

Must be related?

timhoustontx #181524 01/07/2009 12:48 PM
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I, too, have grown-up with the terms:
"Brand spanking new" and "Spick and Span" (commercialized in the US into a cleaning product; Spic-n-Span)


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ParkinT #181528 01/07/2009 3:15 PM
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Span-new is new to me, but brand spanking new, I have heard all my life.

There is an excellent description of the origin of the phrase at http://bit.ly/span-new.

GeoNomad #181531 01/07/2009 4:48 PM
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I've never heard of span-new either. It'd be interesting to get a world-view on this one; with our assortment of members, it is possible.

Brand new and brand-spaking new I have heard.

timhoustontx #181626 01/10/2009 10:04 PM
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Speaking of which, where does 'brand new' come from?

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These are Anu's words about it in today's compendium:

"The term "brand new" refers to a brand (a burning piece of wood), implying straight from the fire, i.e. newly made in a furnace. Then there is "brand spanking new". The word spanking here is as an intensifier, used in the adverbial sense of the word, meaning extremely or remarkably. There appears not to be a connection to the spanking of a newly born baby to gets her breathing started.
The spelling spic-and-span and its association with cleanness is from the popular household cleaning product Spic and Span."
-Anu Garg

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BranShea #181695 01/13/2009 5:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: BranShea
These are Anu's words about it in today's compendium:

"The term "brand new" refers to a brand (a burning piece of wood), implying straight from the fire, i.e. newly made in a furnace. Then there is "brand spanking new". The word spanking here is as an intensifier, used in the adverbial sense of the word, meaning extremely or remarkably. There appears not to be a connection to the spanking of a newly born baby to gets her breathing started.
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The spelling spic-and-span and its association with cleanness is from the popular household cleaning product Spic and Span."
-Anu Garg



And where does the "spic" in the spic and span, come from??


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LukeJavan8 #181696 01/13/2009 7:16 PM
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hmm.. from Spiculispongiae ?

Spic`u*li*spon"gi*[ae]\, n. pl. [NL.] (Zo["o]l.) A division of sponges including those which have independent siliceous spicules.

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that gets my vote.


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BranShea #181708 01/14/2009 12:00 AM
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Quote:
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hmm.. from Spiculispongiae ?

Spic`u*li*spon"gi*[ae]\, n. pl. [NL.] (Zo["o]l.) A division of sponges including those which have independent siliceous spicules.




Why not? Sponges were used to scrub floors with Spic-and-Span when it was concocted.
In fact I still use one, tho' it is often on the end of a stick.


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Buffalo Shrdlu #181709 01/14/2009 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: etaoin
that gets my vote.



Such an educated guess. I love your joy and humor.


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LukeJavan8 #181710 01/14/2009 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8

In fact I still use one, tho' it is often on the end of a stick.


Stick and Span.


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Buffalo Shrdlu #181745 01/15/2009 5:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: etaoin
Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8

In fact I still use one, tho' it is often on the end of a stick.


Quote:
Stick and Span.


Imagine
stick-span-spic? spic-and-span-and stick? or spic,stick and span?
None of those work, your's is better.


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