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...practicing the art of "demurement" ???
Well, that explains it. I never knew you had to practice, and nobody's ever accused me of being artistic. Phewf...good thing my Hubby likes me just the way I am, eh.
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But all winged swarming things, which have four feet, are a detestable thing unto you. And by these ye shall become unclean; whosoever toucheth the carcass of them shall be unclean until even. (Lev. xi:21-4.) I had no time to go searching for it, but I can't think up anything that is " winged and swarming and has four feet ". Any four-footed bird?
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"winged and swarming and has four feet "
Maybe the first pair of an insect's legs were considered arms instead.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Ooo, see, I could see how that would be with a praying mantis.
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Belle, I think the mantis belongs to the allowed group: Yet these may ye eat of all winged swarming things that go upon all fours, which have jointed legs above their feet, wherewith to leap upon the earth; even these of them ye may eat I can only think of dragons or...bats for the 'unclean' ones.
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a praying mantis
Oc. Mantis means 'priest' in Greek, so the praying always seemed redundant.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Chocolate covered grasshoppers taste like chocolate covered honey crunch. Rather nice if you don't think about it.
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Belle, I think the mantis belongs to the allowed group: Yet these may ye eat of all winged swarming things that go upon all fours, which have jointed legs above their feet, wherewith to leap upon the earth; even these of them ye may eat. I can only think of dragons or...bats for the 'unclean' ones. Who you calling "unclean", BranShea? Vampire bats swarm and leap and go on all fours and have jointed legs above their feet.  It's them mud-wallowing but tasty pigs that are "unclean"; not to mention, "uncouth".  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o89CLjQQvsA
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a praying mantis
Oc. Mantis means 'priest' in Greek, so the praying always seemed redundant. I was in my late adolescence before I learned that it was a "praying" mantis. As a pre-schooler and later, I always assumed it was a "preying" mantis, and spelled it that way. Of course, a strong argument could be made that the aforementioned redundancy exists in either case.
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"Cute" video, but: I think, Mr. Milo that (maybe) you, who once upon a time called tsuwm mean for a single word correction, are cheating (hmm.. misleading?) us here. Bats have like us joints, but they have no jointed legs in the meaning of "segmented". And I 'm almost sure that this is what's meant here. Bats have forelimbs that are developped as wings. No joints different from other mammals. "as the structure of the open wing is very similar to an outspread human hand with a membrane between the fingers that also stretches between hand and body.""Arthropods are characterised by having a segmented body with appendages on at least one segment. All arthropods are covered by a hard exoskeleton made of chitin." Mantis leg Vampire bat
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I think, Mr. Milo that you, who once upon a time called tsuwm mean for a single word correction, are cheating us here.
Bats have like us joints, but they have no jointed legs in the meaning of "segmented". And I'm almost sure that this is what's meant here.
Bats have forelimbs that are developped as wings.
No joints different from other mammals.
"as the structure of the open wing is very similar to an outspread human hand with a membrane between the fingers that also stretches between hand and body."
"Arthropods are characterised by having a segmented body with appendages on at least one segment.
All arthropods are covered by a hard exoskeleton made of chitin."
Well, tsuwm is mean sometimes, BranShea, but sometimes he ain't. You know, like sometimes you are right, and sometimes you are wrong. (What? You think I shouldn't correct you and tsuwm when you two step out of line?) Of course I should, and now I would like to correct the ancient Jews for designating our friends the bats as unclean and not fit for human consumption. Question: Bats can hop; so how can they hop if they don't have "joints"? From the net:
For birds, the criteria is less clear. The Torah provides a list of forbidden birds (Lev. 11:13-19; Deut. 14:11-18), but does not specify why these particular birds are forbidden. All of the birds on the list are birds of prey or scavengers, thus the rabbis inferred that this was the basis for the distinction. Other birds are permitted, such as chicken, geese, ducks and turkeys. However, some people avoid turkey, because it is not mentioned in the Torah, leaving room for doubt. From the Bible:
"And these you shall have in abomination among the birds, they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, the vulture, the osprey, the kite, the falcon according to its kind, every raven according to its kind, the ostrich, the nighthawk, the sea gull, the hawk according to its kind, the owl, the cormorant, the ibis, the water hen, the pelican, the carrion vulture, The Stork, the heron according to its kind, the hoopoe, and the bat." (Leviticus 11:13-19 RSV)It is good that the Jews don't eat bats but as a fellow mammal I think that the ancient Jews should apologize for classing our friends the bats as dim-witted reptilian birds and calling them "unclean abominations" that are not to be touched. Personally I've never touched a "hoopoe" but I've touched bats. Lots of 'em. Am I then an abomination? Or do I get a pass because I'm a kind and gentle gentile of the finest sort?
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You get a pass because you're a gentile, gentle or not. The dietary laws of which you speak are required only of Jews. The rest of us are bound only by the Noachian laws which aren't as strict.
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"Bats have like us joints,"(my own words). You get a pass because you are a gentile and throughout not ungentle. I do not believe in 'abominations' or 'uclean' of bats nor birds either. My post was just about biological differences between bats and mantisses. Nothing more. BTW. when I see the list of by Torah forbidden birds I've heard that sea gulls must be positively uneatable for tasting terrifyingly bad. So bad even a starving sailor has difficulty to swallow it. Might be the other forbidden ones are no feast either. Yes, a bat can hop and you can bop and I can do the quick step (sometime, not all the time..) That's a lot of levitating Leviticus we got this weekend.
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Zed, what is Honey Crunch? I've looked on the net and found popcorn and cereal and a whole pile of unrelated sites.
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oops, I shouldn't have capitalized it, it was a description not a brand.
Imagine the ad campaign though: "Try Honey Crunch for that real grasshopper flavour! "
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And I thought you were talking about the cereal.
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You'd better give your Honey Crunch cereal a good second look..
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Honey Crunch® cereal has grasshoppers in it?
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Doubtful, but I'll bet you'd find Honey Crunch in the hoppers if they could get it.,
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You hadn't capitalized it, Zed. I saw it capitalized on a pile of web sites so it wrote it that way automatically.
I see by the subsequent posts that it is cereal though. I guess it is an English brand since I've never seen it here in Québec. I must be like the Cinnamon Toast Crunch* cereals that I see everywhere except here.
(*It's very odd that. French Quebeckers, as a whole, dislike cinnamon. You never see Cinnamon Eggos, Apple Cinnamon bars from Kellogg or apple pie with cinnamon, on supermarket shelves. I wonder if there are other types of food that are appreciated by one group and disliked by another group living in close proximity.)
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There are not really many authentic French recipes with cinnamon either. I've Googled and weekied in French and all the recipes I saw are somehow connected to American or North African (Algéria) origins. Maybe the Québequers have a missing gene for cinnamon.
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Up until recently, I never used cannelle either, but then I discovered mulled wine. After shoveling two feet of snow, for an hour and a half, mulled wine is a phenomenal warm-me-up.
Mind you, that isn't a French recipe either, but the cinnamon suppliers can rejoice...they're converting Quebekers. O.k., so it's one at at time and we're 7 million, but ya gotta start somewhere. The mulled wine was brilliant...which Frenchy can resist wine?! HA!
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That is so good! My neigbour made it on 31 dec.
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Sorry, cannelle is cinnamon.
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Ah--merci. :-) You mean y'all don't have cinnamon rolls?? Ooh, not much beats a warm cinnamon roll and a big glass of milk. (Oh, ok, coffee for you grownups.)
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Oh, in some shopping centres where there is a greater concentration of English folk, we can find shops called Saint Cinnamon that sell these big round buns with white frosting, but get out of Montreal and they're non-existant.
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Then there's the Cathy classic, Abs of Steel, Buns of Cinnamon.
Meanwhile, while I doubt Uncle Ben will ever come back, I am at a loss to understand what the loss is in the change of meaning of the phrase "the lion's share." For one thing it's a cliché and some would prefer it not be used at all, with whatever meaning, but that aside, it's not like we've lost any way of saying all. Even if we wish to keep the cliché we still have the whole nine yards.
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I like Earl Grey best with cinnamon buns.
but no icing on them
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Ooo, LOVE a piping cup of Earl Grey. I like the loose leaves that you get in a tin. That way, you can adjust the strength to exactly how you prefer.
The buns are mostly eaten for the icing, it is quite lovely. If you eat the icing, and that first outside-layer of bun, you can chuck that middle part with all the cinnamon.
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Not being French I scrape off the icing, possibly eat the outside and savour the inside with all the lovely cinnamon.
We need to go for tea together; we'll share one pot, two buns and each get the part we like best.
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Looks like you'll get the lion's share and belMarduk only the icing. Icing is not a very French tradition. (except for > éclairs , covered with a very thin film of icing ) , it's the United Kingdom and Ireland that are Icing Champions. This appealing pastry you're talking about must be a new world blend. Enjoy!
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you can chuck that middle part with all the cinnamon. oh, give that part to me, please! it's the best!
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Ah!!! Great !Words fail! No, still have some;  the whole page is running half way out of screen. But stuwm, it's worth it! Sorry,sorry, just look a the words:"this too shall pass" on the side.I mean, HOW?
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Not being French I scrape off the icing, possibly eat the outside and savour the inside with all the lovely cinnamon.
We need to go for tea together; we'll share one pot, two buns and each get the part we like best. SOLD! If I'm ever in B.C., you know I'll have to pop in to see you for tea and icing.
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On seing that large cinnamon bun can you imagine how some bugs are fascinated by carnivorous plants? Cephalotus Some plants are non vegetarians too.They really look like fun.
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On seing that large cinnamon bun can you imagine how some bugs are fascinated by carnivorous plants? Cephalotus Some plants are non vegetarians too.They really look like fun. I'll stick to the cinnamon buns. Hey Belle, give me 4 hours notice and I'll do home made cinnamon buns, I'll even make icing for yours.
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I think the flight from Montréal takes 7 hours.
Good thing you like the buns and I like the icing, who can resist warm, out-of-the-oven buns. You can eat the buns before I arrive, and I'll have the icing while we share some tea.
Then we can go bamboshing out on the town what with our sugar buzz. HA!
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